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I've been running a Kimber Warrior for a year. Plunked down $1,000 for that bad boy. It's my daily carry. With the M&P .45 coming out in a few months, I was thinking I could dump the Warrior, buy the M&P, and have a good-sized pile of cash left over. Not only that, by dumping the Warrior I would divest myself of all the maintanence and reliability issues that come with the 1911 platform. (mine runs fine at this writing). Then, I shot the Warrior again today.



Understand that I have at least ~10k rounds thru my Glock 22 (I put 1k thru it the first week I took it out of the box five years ago). I shoot it pretty well. But that 1911, man that trigger is just unbelievable. The hits just happen as oppsoed to having to work for everything with the Glock.



When the .45 M&P comes available, I'm defintely gonna score one. We'll see how it goes. It's gonna be a heckuva chore for anything to bump the 1911 completely out of the line-up. For me, it all comes down to the trigger feel. I would reaallly love to find something to replace that 1911, but I don't think it's gonna happen. Thoughts?
 

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How many 1911's do you own? I wouldn't let go of the warrior if it runs great and is one of only a few you have. If it runs "most of the time" then I might let it go....



The M&P is a little more...shall I say, practical?



If I was you I'd wait until the potential bugs are worked out of the .45, AND you have some more dough to justify the purchase.
 

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I'm not giving up my Kimber. No way. I already have a M&P.40 and I'm gonna keep that too to keep my M&P.45 company. (it's dark in the safe :roll: ) My 1911's go from 3" to 7" and the four of em make a nice collection.



Keep your Warrior it's a great build gun without all the lawyer induced b.s. In other words a Browning the way it was designed.


You will find many 1911 owners here, the place is full of em. Welcome!
 

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How many 1911's do you own? I wouldn't let go of the warrior if it runs great and is one of only a few you have. If it runs "most of the time" then I might let it go....



The M&P is a little more...shall I say, practical?



If I was you I'd wait until the potential bugs are worked out of the .45, AND you have some more dough to justify the purchase.
Good advice.
 

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I agree. I have a Wilson CQB with a Dawson rail and Simonivich sp? grips. I love the gun but rarely shoot it. However, if another mag capacity ban comes in retroactively I would go back to the 1911. I think that's what started the 1911 comebackl anyway.
 

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I love my Kimber 1911!
 

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The Kimber is the sole 1911 in the armory. Not knocking those who collect guns for the sake of collecting, but I don't do that. - evry gun fills a particular function. The Warrior has run 100% after getting some initial extractor issues addressed. It is my daily carry and will be so for the forseeable future. The 1911 system, for all its foibles continues to be at the top of the heap for serious purposes. The rub comes when entering an inhospitable environment i.e., duck blind, hunting, camping, rain, hurricane... Something about subjecting a $1,000 gun to those environments rankles. I'd much rather have a plastic gun for those types of assignments. I went the Warrior route so I can run a light for house gun purposes. I attach and detach the TLR-1 nightly. Yup, it's a PITA, but I figure as long as I'm disciplined about attaching the light, I'll never need it.



Back on topic... When the M&P .45 rolls out I might run it as the dedicated house gun (and thus leave the light in place)and get an aluminumed frame Commander for a carry gun. Sweeteness would abound with that set-up. I would like to have all my handguns standardized in terms of operation re: thumb safeties and maybe I'll go that route with the M&P. I have no choice but to run a Glock at work so as long as I run a 1911, I'm going to have some departure in terms of the functioning of the pistol.



Bottom line, from here on out when I start thinking about trading away the Warrior, I'll go run a few boxes of ammo thru it before I put up on the block. I guess I sort of wish I did not like the 1911 like I do - it would make life more simple. But, I shoot my Warrior better than anything else - so it stays.
 

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For a dedicated house gun I would look into a XD45. 14+1 is alot of .45ACP and it is a very managable gun, the grip is very slim for the capacity.



The M&P would serve you fine too, really they are all interchangable into the roles of carry, house gun, ect.



Why not get a shotgun for home defense? Cheaper and more effective!
 

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I have an 11-87 ready to go, but the way my house is laid out makes a long gun unwieldy and having to gather up kids also moves me back to the pistola (kid in one arm, pistol in the other hand - hauling booty for the back room).



True, the XD would probably do yeoman's duty as a dedicated house gun - it just doesn't do it for *me*. The M&P, however, has captured my attention. You gotta go with what cranks your tractor.



ETA: One cannot put a price on holding in your hand a pistol that you know you can get hits with when things start turning brown. The 1911 does this for me. I'm hoping that the M&P will do the same. It's all about getting the hits. Run what works for you.
 

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For a dedicated house gun I would look into a XD45.
Pardon me why I hurl...
Buy American!




A shotgun is only a good idea if you own a free standing house. In an apartment / condo you might kill your neighbors child on the other side of the wall, same goes for magnums. Seen it way too many times. It's the worst.
 

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Pardon me why I hurl... Buy American!


From the guy with a glock for wifey and an AK, the very symbol of evil. Also, while a croatian design, the parent company is Springfield Armory, they are plenty red blooded.



Buying American is great when you can, but I'd never turn down a superior weapon (Disclaimer: I am not stating the XD is superior to the M&P) If I did feel the XD was a superior weapon I wouldn't let loyalties get in the way of me buying the best possible weapon for ME and my hand/style.



You aren't doing the US any disservice, just pressuring it to design better weapons. Sink or swim, that's the American way. If people are buying foreign made products its because they have an edge over US made products, and the US manufacturers have to improve their product to stay competitive.
 

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For whatever reason she likes her glock. I'm not gonna argue with a ex-Marine who's got an Irish temper and shoots expert. I hate the damn thing. My AK was a present from a Russian friend. It would have been very disrespectful for me to deny it. Besides he outranked me. It's a long story.
 
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