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First part - My brother in law went off on me for buying an M&P 40 saying it is just another plastic gun... I personally don't pay any attention to his rants.. As for me.. I love this pistol and in a person protection situation.. I would grab it in a heartbeat knowing it will perform..



Second part- My brother in law went on to say something about the M&P40 failed some kind of test the military did on it.. Saying it would discharge if dropped from the top of a Bradly and if it hit a certain way on concrete or something like that... I have never heard of this or found any articles on the internet about it... I personally think he is just making it up.. If anyone has heard anything about this, I would like to know..



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Dont know why the military would do a test with a M&P40 since they are looking for a .45ACP, so I dont believe it. Since we are talking about plastic guns, I know the Glock is not all that. I spent 26 months in Iraq, and the Iraqi Police have Glock 19's I believe. We did a joint raid on a house and the Iraqi police dropped his glock down a set of stairs and it went off. Lets just say that all the americans were pissed off, but the Iraqi police said that all there glocks do that. Who knows though, it might be the trashy Iraqi made 9mm rounds that they use and for some reason all the weapons they use tend to accedentaly discharge. :roll:
 

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I know he is full of it.



Being prior service, and testing certain weapons, that isn't one of them.



I still cant figure out how the M&P would go off by dropping it anyway.
 

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Sounds like pure Horse**** to me. It passed the California DOJ drop test which consists of a drop of 39.4 in onto solid concrete. Certainly not the height of a Bradely but high enough to cause a failure if it were going to happen.



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Yeah.. I couldn't find any place about the Military testing it.. Found all kinds of articles about LE Depts testing them... I know the military is going to be testing the new M&P45 when it comes out.. And if the M&P45 performs like the M&P40/9, then Smith and Wesson should have no problems of winning the contract...



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I think that it would be repeated everywhere (by S&W competitors) if the M&P failed a serious test. Especially true with the upcoming joint pistol trials.



Anything mechanical can fail, but all the Iraqi Glocks AD?

Sounds more like operator error to me.





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He shoots nothing but SIGs.. He has a P226 and a P228... Both in 9mm...



As for inadequacy issues.. Don't get me started..
 

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ben....i'm gonna let that dog lie.



it does sound like he is stuck in a metal frame mindset. that is hard to overcome.



personally, i've found several from each family (metal & poly) that i consider to be top notch and worth owning and shooting.



my M&P9 and XD9sc are two poly examples. Metal? S&W 6904, 1911 are a couple i've collected and enjoy.



interestingly enough. i've owned several sigs and the only one that i ever owed that i really liked and kick myself to this day for selling was my brushed nickel P228 9mm. that was one sweet gun.
 

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ben2112 said:
He shoots nothing but SIGs.. He has a P226 and a P228... Both in 9mm...



As for inadequacy issues.. Don't get me started..


Some gun owners are just fanatical about their guns. Are his pistols stainless? If not, you can be sure to point out that his pistol frames are made of aluminum alloy. Also, be sure to point out that Sig manufacturers a line of plastic framed pistols also (the Pro series).



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I have found diehard sig owners are sometimes arrogant. Almost as bad as the 1911 fans.
 

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Almost as bad as the 1911 fans.


hey now we are not all bad




Dan



of course the 1911 I shoot the most has a plastic frame (SVI)
 

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I also shoot plastic 1911, a kimber pro ten 2. Had to send it back a few times but it shoots great now.
 

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Ok, I gotta chime in here on this one too.



I live is the state as Dan has mentioned. Tons of red tape to get a fire arm into this state.



Probably 90% of the hand guns allowed into this state contain some sort of hammer safety or fire pin safety to pass the safety tests including the drop test. By next year 100% of the gun will be required to have the safeties mentioned above. Pretty soon we gonna need to punch a combination to discharge the gun.




M&P .40 passed the test, thus allowing me to own one.



So, unless you see something in writing, dont believe them.



Also, I own a Kimber 1911, Sig P220, and ofcourse the M&P .40.



So, can we all just get along......
 

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Hey, I really like the 1911, I actually fired my cousins at a match yesterday.



BUT I like having 2x the ammo on tap.
 

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different guns for different purposes.



my 1911 is my fun gun. by far the most fun to shoot. besides, it shoots the 45acp, a lovely recoiling round in an all metal gun.



M&P. range time is important. home defense gun, travel gun, but not my side arm.



conceal carry. CS45, XD9sc, 6904, 1911. all great choices
 
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