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Took thirty-eight days, but I put round # 10,000 through my M&P9 this afternoon at the NRA Range.
 

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Thirty-eight days, consecutively? That is impressive. Glad to hear it stood up to that kind of usage...not that it surprises me.
 

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Just to make sure I'm clear: over the course of 38 days, I fired a total of 10,000 (10,140 actually) rounds through my M&P9. I did not fire 10k rounds every day for 38 days.
I went to the range 19 of those 38 days.
 

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My thoughts go towards "Good LORD that's a lot of rounds in such short timespan!"

I hope you're saving money by reloading...
 

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Thoughts? I think the increase in ammo prices over the past three years sucks @$$.




Off the top of my head:



Pros

  • durable ... not a single parts breakage in 10,000 rounds. No parts replacements, not even pins and springs. The recoil spring was changed after the 10,000 mark was reached.
  • reliable ... I had two stoppages that might have been induced by the pistol. The first was a failure to chamber on the very first round after the pistol had been in storage for almost a year, without cleaning or lubrication. The second was a light primer hit on a round of CCI Blazer; the round discharged on the second striker hit.
  • resists abuse ... the gun was cleaned only three times. It was carried almost every day. It was used in competitive matches, for training & teaching.
  • ergonomic ... easy to configure the pistol for almost any shooter
  • practical ... light weight, high capacity, easy to shoot
  • safe ... no need to pull trigger for disassembly; mine also had the mag disconnect safety installed recently




    • Cons
      • trigger ... suitable for carry use but needs tuning for best performance
      • HOT ... the gun, especially the takedown lever, gets very hot with repeated rapid fire.
      • mag catch ... as many have commented, the mag catch is light enough and big enough to be pressed accidentally depending on the shooter's technique and the grip configuration. While I prefer to have the mag button on the right side of the gun (pressing with my trigger finger), I have to keep it on the left side of the gun (pressing with my thumb) to avoid the drops.
      • hammerless ... if something (finger, coat tail, lanyard) gets inside the trigger guard as you holster, you won't know it until a very loud noise interrupts your day. It's the only thing I miss from the TDA guns I shot for a decade before coming to the M&P.
      • disassembly ... Since I refuse to pull the trigger for disassembly (moot point now that I have a mag disconnect in my gun) the takedown method is just enough of a hassle to rate as a con.
      • night sight design ... the tritium capsules are deeply inset with a "stepped" design, which allows muzzle debris to black out the white circle which can be hard to clean.
 

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Very interesting.



As a 'make mine in steel' kind of guy who has just bought a 40 cal M&P, I was wondering how tough they were.



Guess that answers that question !



TJ
 

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Ten thousand rounds shouldn't be a challenge for any duty pistol from a reputable manufacturer. Today, it wouldn't even be considered a competitive service life limit. Most companies test to 20,000 rounds or more. About the only thing I'm doing "wrong" is the lack of cleaning and lubrication. The industry standard is to cool the weapon & lubricate every 250 rounds, do a field strip cleaning every 500 rounds, and a detail strip and clean every 5,000 rounds. (these aren't recommended practices for end users, just a methodology used during endurance testing)



Barring unforeseen circumstances I should definitely hit 20,000 before the year is out. That, too, should be no challenge for the gun.
 

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The way I see it... is you fired the equivalent of about 3 news guns worth of ammo thru it in just over a month... wow. If you practiced dry firing with half those rounds you could get a new gun plus... food for thought. :wink:
 

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Good lord brotha!! That is a whole lot of shooting! I get to the range as often as possible and still... 10,000 rounds in such a short period of time seems like a crazy number. I guess I'll stop worrying about the long term durability of the M&P series. That's been my only concern with mine.
 

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lugnut said:
If you practiced dry firing with half those rounds you could get a new gun plus... food for thought. :wink:


Actually, I do dry fire. Not nearly as much as I should, but especially when switching to a new gun (or a new trigger setup) I dry fire quite a bit for a day or two.



But my approach is the opposite of what you're suggesting. I don't need more guns. I need to get better with the guns I've already got! I'd much rather buy another 10,000 rounds of ammo than two new pistols. Beware the man with one gun, he probably knows how to use it.
 

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ToddG said:
But my approach is the opposite of what you're suggesting. I don't need more guns. I need to get better with the guns I've already got! I'd much rather buy another 10,000 rounds of ammo than two new pistols.


I hear ya. I want both.. to shoot better AND more guns.
 

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jmr said:
Does Winchester sponsor you?


If they did, they'd be ticked off that all the ammo I've shot through the gun has been ATK (Federal, Speer, CCI). But if anyone from Winchester is reading this and would like your company to be the sole provider for the second 10,000 through the gun, please feel free to contact me.
 

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Re: Wow!

Omikron said:
You must spend an insane amount of money on ammo. 10,000 rounds in 19 days is intense.


At least $1,600 if it's 9mm.
 

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The Fish said:
At least $1,600 if it's 9mm.


No, it was less than that and I wouldn't have started the thread if I thought it was going to devolve into a discussion of my personal finances. :wink:
 
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