John, its a little off the subject but I have you to thank for showing me this website a couple months ago. At that time it was about the Ruger Rimfire Challenge (RRC), well the Take 5 folks have decided to accept our offer and host a RRC at a shooting complex near by the house. If it wasnt for you and Mr. Bane and downrangetv.com, I would simply been plinking beer cans, now I feel like a pro, thanks again...