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I have 400 rounds through my M&P 40 that I picked up Thursday. I love the gun, but this is my first .40 and I am really not liking the caliber. I want to either put in a .357 sig barrel or trade it in for a 9mm.



I really want to keep the gun, but it is not comfortable to shoot. It is the most accurate handgun that I own. 1.5in groups at 7 yards.



Does anyone have any other sugesstions to tame the recoil. It is worse than my .45 1911.
 

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I'd suggest a light load, they are very fun. Speed shooters specialties has a nice load, or if you reload then you can load down.



The 40 is very controlable if you take the time to get used to it.



What ammo were you putting through it.



Mabe in the long run you might be better with a 9. I'm sure someone would trade for it.
 

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I was shooting Ranger SXT 155gr, WWB 165gr., and Aguila 180 gr.



I have shot a .357 sig before and it was very nice. I would like to swap barrels if they are coming out any time soon.
 

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There are a few wacky people out there who claim .40s&W has worse recoil than .357 sig. They are either really peculiar or simply don't know what they are talking about.



It has all the push of a .40 plus all the snap of a +P+ 9mm, and all the muzzle blast of a .357magnum in a short barreled revolver.



Absolutely loathe the cartridge other than it shoots flatter than pretty much anything that fits into the same frame at stock pressures.
 

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I am a big 357Sig fan; I own a couple of them. As of right now there is no barrel for the M&P in 357Sig. I don't think recoil would be much different with 357Sig. Some people feel that .40 has more recoil. Some people feel that 357Sig has more recoil. But most people will tell you that they are very close in terms of recoil. To me the .40 has less recoil than 357Sig in the same gun.



I would try some lighter loaded ammo first. The lightest recoiling .40 I have found is Federal American Eagle 165gr. Run a hundred rounds of these through your M&P, and see how you like it. Then if you feel it has too much recoil, or it's painfull, I would trade it for a 9mm.
 

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same here.



One thing that might be confusing, the 357sig is typically louder than the 40sw.Which could play in the 357sig is more recoil. It can also cause a development of a flinch in new inexperience shooters.
 

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BTW, the only time I have shot a .357 sig was in a 4in barrel 1911. The weight is probably what tamed the recoil then.
 

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Went to my local dealer and asked about any M&P's coming in. He told me that on Friday he got a M&P.357SIG in. A person ordered it about 5 months ago and it finally came in. He wouldnt tell me the customers name. But I would like to try it out. Imagine waiting 5 months for your pistol.


I couldnt do it!!!
 

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same here.



One thing that might be confusing, the 357sig is typically louder than the 40sw.Which could play in the 357sig is more recoil. It can also cause a development of a flinch in new inexperience shooters.


+100000000



I was regularly ROing a guy shooting a compact .357 sig glock at our indoor action macth and developed a flinch just from ROing him as the noise is worse off to the side than directly behind the gun. That puts it in the same league as comped open guns and ported full house 10mm loads.



Only takes about 100 roiunds of live fire to get the flinch under control, but it is damn annoying. Short barreled .357 sig pistols are possibly one of the most anoying combinations on the planet IMO.
 

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Two weeks ago I called the factory and asked about the .357SIG barrel. For what it is worth I was told.....

“At this time we don’t have the .357SIG barrels available, but it is my understanding that it is not just a barrel swap. It is my understanding that if you want a .357SIG you have to buy a .357SIG.”
 

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...but it is my understanding that it is not just a barrel swap. It is my understanding that if you want a .357SIG you have to buy a .357SIG.”


I hope this is not true. This would mean S&W deliberatly designed the gun this way. I hope we get more info on this.
 

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There are a few wacky people out there who claim .40s&W has worse recoil than .357 sig. They are either really peculiar or simply don't know what they are talking about.
:roll:



I guess that makes me AND quite a few of my friends and co-workers WACKY!
 

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Two weeks ago I called the factory and asked about the .357SIG barrel. For what it is worth I was told.....

“At this time we don’t have the .357SIG barrels available, but it is my understanding that it is not just a barrel swap. It is my understanding that if you want a .357SIG you have to buy a .357SIG.”


BULL! I checked the part numbers. ALL the same but 1,.. the barrel.

I might change the recoil spring too.
 
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