I dont know if there is anyone from western PA that has bought ammo there before or if they are still in operation. When I first qualified in the police academy, I got 1000 rounds of 9mm lead for 109$. Then if u returned the brass, they gave you a discount on the next purchase. Anyone know the phone number. I can't find it anywhere. They were out of Enon valley, PA. The police academy I attended also used this ammo for handouts. It was clean burning with the typical problems of a lead bullet, but good cleaning takes care of that. I just wanted to mention this because it's hard to beat 9 cents a round. plus it was reliable. Out of the class of 40 firing 1000 rounds each, we had 1 misfire. Not bad for practice ammo.