I was told that the Remington 165 gram Golden Saber Brass Jacketed Hollow Point was of equal standard of the Black Talon and Remington had killed a black bear with the Golden Saber with good effects.
raz-0 said:FYI it's grains, not grams. 165 grams is almost 2500 grains. That's a HUGE bullet.
as for black talon's being obsolete, they were rebranded as winchester ranger T, and are on the list you linked to chooch.
Bullet technology doesn't move that fast.