Backstrap Removal???

I am going to try and explain how I saw the tool removed. Place you gun, butt first, against a counter top. Have the flat side of the tool resting on the top of the counter. Then just twist the whole gun while keeping some downward pressure on the tool. This method twisted the tool pretty easily and did not damage it at all. No tools needed .



Here are a couple of pics that I hope will help.



Ron

So I finally got the stupid thing to turn a 1/4 turn with the help of a trusty vice, but now I can't seem to pull it out. I think they welded it into my frame . If anyone has any tricks please let me know.

Guys this is a great site.

Have had my M&P40 for a couple of weeks, but only wiped down the outside with CLP and held it a few times. Planned to strip it and clean it this weekend.



I check this site often, and stumbled on the frame tool thread. I understood how the tool was removed and worked, and I thought to myself I hope it doesn't fall out while shooting.



FAT chance of that. I read here about how hard it is to get out.



I used the oil it first, let it sit a bit, then pliers and a cloth. Still hard, and I nattered up the tool base just a little.



Got it turned, and had to wrap some thin plastic coated wire around it to give it a good pull....had to pull hard, and it gave quite suddenly. I turned it 90 degrees before pulling (not the 45 the manual states) and that seemed to help.



I would never have gotten it out if I hadn't read this thread...it was frustrating enough as is...I'm glad I didn't get time to clean it until now, and found the thread first.



THANKS.



If I natter it up any more during the next few strips, I may contact S&W about a repalcement. I may anyway, the design leaves something to be desired.



Can't believe the frustration. This thing better shoot as well as I've read.

Effyouess said:

I jsut grabbed mine with pliers, turn it exactly 1/4 turn, and yanked hard the first time. It came out, I almost fell over, but no harm came to the tool or grip. ::shrug:: It does get easier after a while. I can now take it out without tools, but it's still difficult



Ciao,

Effy

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Nice visual you set for us with you almost falling on your ass....lol But I can totally see how that happened. They didnt put them in there to come out easy! But I think thats good. Mine comes out now with my fingers, but yes its stuck in there pretty good, just as it should. When I first landed my M&P9 I thought to myself damn thats in there, almost started feeling like a little girl un till I started reading how everyone here has had the same problem....lol



We are men right???

Here's a great tip.



Take a look at the butt plate of the Smith Factory Mags. See the indent at the front of it. Does the shape look like something may fit inside of it. Kind of like a socket. Still have to wiggle it out once you get it turned 1/4 turn but it works like a champ.



My wife tells me that this is why I get paid the big bucks.

Interesting.

All of my butt plates look like this.

And this is from a MPN gun: