ryansmith16 said:I just purchased my M&P .40 and i was going to see what everyone recommends for the best all around defense round? i'm hearing a lot about Speer Gold Dots. any suggestions?
bobbthompson said:...Now answer this question, "Were you carrying 15 bullets because you were expecting to get attacked by 15 people, or because you're an unskilled trigger happy goon?"
More BS straight out of the pages of Combat Handjobs magazine.bobbthompson said:Any well known factory Self Defense ammo will be reliable and as effective as your aim. What you have to worry about in a SD shooting isn't effective ammo, it's personal liability. You will be going to jail, at least for the night. A year of your life will be tied up in court. Go to your local PD and ask them what they shoot. Shoot that ammo. When the prosector asks, "Did you choose that particular ammo because you want to kill people?" You can say, "No, I chose it because the (insert name of your town) Police Department determined it was the safest ammo to carry."
-Also, don't carry more than 10 rounds.
-Don't modify your CC gun at all.
-Don't call your gun a weapon. A weapon is what the bad guy had, even if it was a bat. You have a gun which is a tool you used to stop the guy with the weapon.
-And for heaven's sake, don't say a word without a lawyer present. The absolute best thing that can come from talking to the police is "Nothing" and it goes down hill from there. Do you really think that anything you have to say is going to get you a medal for being so brave and honest?
-Carry boring ammo in a boring gun, and pray to whatever God you do that you never have to shoot anyone.
Quality mags are designed to hold the rated number of rounds. The springs in them are consumables and should be treated as such. Also, it is not the compreshion of the spring but the # of times it goes through its full cycle from loaded to empty that wears it out.bobbthompson said:You can carry as many bullets as you want, but consider this:
-You might want to underload your mags by at least 1 round to maintain mag spring health.
-Picture yourself on the witness stand. Now answer this question, "Were you carrying 15 bullets because you were expecting to get attacked by 15 people, or because you're an unskilled trigger happy goon?"
Food for thought: I ran into an ER doc at Shooter's World in Phoenix, AZ. He overheard me asking about the stopping power of 9mm vs .40s&w. The week before, a DOA came into his ER. The DOA had broken into a Vietnam Vet's house. The Vet delivered one round of ball ammo from a Glock 17 center mass into the intruder. It hit lung, aorta, and spine. The perp was dead before he hit the ground. Whatever PD ammo you choose, buy lots of it and shoot it often. The better you are, the less critical ammo choice is.
I already answered that bunch of BS. Nobody is saying the M&P isn't a good gun. Nobody is saying it cannot be used as is effectively. I AM!!!!!!!! saying it can be modified to be made better for the individual that is using it very easily. We have to very prominent Smiths on this forum that do work to the gun. Go to their websites, read their histories and thoughts. Call them up and ask questions to find out if their work will make the gun a liability for CCW or better yet for Duty work. For goodness sakes dude look at what David Bowie does for a living. A gun is a tool and the manufactuers are going a better job of making these tools adaptable to a wider range of hands. BUT! let's not forget that they are trying to make money and they make money by selling more guns. The cheaper that they can sell the gun the more they will sell if it meets with or exceeds it's competitors. That being said, no matter how good we feel our M&Ps, or any other mass produced weapon is there is always ways it can be made better for the individual that is using it. Notice, we aren't talking about tungsten guide rods or 2 lb compitition only triggers. We are talking about smoothing a trigger pull, strippling grips to make them easier to hold on to and even different sights that the individual user might just find superior to the three dot crap every manufactuer puts on their guns because a decade ago that is what everyone just had to have. One last point, you just might be misquoting your Guru in Combat Handjobs magazine.bobbthompson said:
Here is the list of recommended .40 rounds from the above mentioned forum:ryansmith16 said:I just purchased my M&P .40 and i was going to see what everyone recommends for the best all around defense round? i'm hearing a lot about Speer Gold Dots. any suggestions?