toocool said:Every time I read about this "high thumbs forward" grip I cringe. I've tried this grip under the watchful eye of several instructors, and can't hit the broad side of a barn holding a gun this way, nor do I find I get fast follow up shots or good gun control. I can't provide a photo right now, but I hold my handguns with my shooting hand thumb down and my support hand thumb over it. I think Massad Ayoob refers to this as the "crush" grip. I get better control of the gun, and faster follow up shots. I don't know why the thumbs forward works for others and not me, but I do not believe this should be advertised carte blanche as the "proper" way to hold a pistol.