...out of my new/used M&P 9.WOW- better than I imagined I must admit. I went to shoot a couple groups to make sure the sights are on for me before the match this weekend. I shot 2 groups of ten shot strings at 25 yards on an IPSC metric target. The result was 20 A zone hits in two nice 6" groups from the offhand position! And with WWB ammo at that. At least know that if I have all the time in the world the gun will do it's job if I do my part. :twisted: The muzzle flip was a little more than I imagined as well- but these were calm group shots. At speed I don't think it will be noticable at all. Looking forward to the match!