I bought the Galloway recoil assembly and it didn't work in mine. Too loose.
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Went out to the garage with the barrel. Carb cleaner and a bore brush = nope. Brake cleaner with a bore brush = nope. Grabbed the lead removing barrel cleaner with the brush = nope. Could not find the copper fouling remover but the results are the same with the 3 I did scrub the barrel with. Spray/dip and brush and then run a patch through and the inside of the barrel is just fuzzy looking. The JB Bore Paste I ordered was promised today (Amazon) but now says tomorrow for delivery. I'll see if it makes a difference and report back.
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Forgot to mention, till I looked at it again, the TR-Enabling 4" ported barrel (only one I have from them) has a left hand twist to the lands/grooves. I grabbed a 4&1/4" full slize M&P barrel (9MM) and it has the usual right hand twist.
Only other guns I've seen with that left hand twist are my M1917 rifles wtih the original barrels. Of course those are further "weird" because they have 5 lands/grooves, not 4 or 6 like most rifles.
Doesn't hurt anything to have a left hand twist, it's just not the usual thing for US made gun barrels, in my experience.
Only other guns I've seen with that left hand twist are my M1917 rifles wtih the original barrels. Of course those are further "weird" because they have 5 lands/grooves, not 4 or 6 like most rifles.
Doesn't hurt anything to have a left hand twist, it's just not the usual thing for US made gun barrels, in my experience.
The 4" Recoil Spring Assembly is #3009903 as there WAS 22 of them on eBay & they have since sold for $14.99ea
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Okay, got the extractor pin cut off and set slightly below the top of the hole. Can't move up due to the optics plate, I'll have to keep any eye on the bottom and if it tries to move down/out I'll stake the bottom of the hole enough to keep the pin in. Then it'll be like a CZ slide. Insert the pin from the top and drive it out from the bottom.
1.0 extractor "fits" in the 2.0 slide but I don't believe it's going to work. It won't feed from the magazine up and into the chamber. Not enough room between the hook on the front of the extractor and the breechface. I can barely force the case rim up there with the slide off and no barrel in the way to allow my big thumb/finger in there to push on the brass. Three 2.0 extractors on order (two to use, one for a spare - the 1.0 Shield extactors I have will just be spares for the older 1.0 shields) from Numrich.
Also ordered the small springs/pin for the extractor. Did someone say the purpose of those is to help hold the extractor pin in place? Oh, no more 2.0 extractor springs in stock at Numrich so I asked to be notified when they get more in. I just need the one I've got now (until I decide to finish the 2nd 4" slide.
Had to file a little on the bottom of the front sight to get it to move to the center of the slide. Darn brass punch marked the side of the slide when it bounced up off the sight one time. Might eventually wipe off with a few cleanings, like brass marks wipe off the outside of the slide after it bounce empties off it when firing/extracting/ejecting.
Looks good, just won't be shooting it (I'm sick anyway, at home test tells me I've got covid - runny nose, snot, sneezing, some sinus drainage and a slightly sore throat some mornings, light headache once in the last week or so and just feeling blah.) But I don't want to be around other people so I'll sit around the house for a week or so.
Got that barrel good and clean inside. After all the chemicals, brushes and patches yesterday (or was it day before?) I got the JB Bore paste in the mail today. Five to ten passes through the barrel with each patch with the bore paste on it. Toss that patch and repeat. After 4 of those sets (40 passes with polishing paste on the patches) I cleaned the barrel and did not see the fuzzy look anymore on the edges/corners of the lands. I went ahead and used the bore paste for 3 more sets of 10 passes and then cleaned the barrel with Hoppe's#9. Darn barrel is clean and shiny. First Hoppe's patch was dark, second and third were not. First dry patch was a little bit dark. Second/last dry patch looked great. Using a light reflected off a piece of white paper that barrel look pretty darn good.
Just need to shoot it now.
It's a "sleek" looking pistol compared to most others. Thin slide, thin frame, still 13+1 or even 15+1 so all the capacity of the bigger compact pistols in a narrow/flatter package. A greyhound (maybe a doberman) vs. bigger/wider dogs/pistols. Hey, I'm gonna nickname mine "The Doberman." It's already black colored. I wonder if I can find a set of FDE/tan colored grip panels for it (like the Talon grips).
Have a good evening guys/gals. I'm waiting on the 2.0 extractor now and by the time I get it I might feel good enough to head for the range.
Picture of the patches, JB Bore Paste patches on the left, Hoppe's#9 patches in the center, dry patches on the right.
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With the 13 round magazine the pistol is about 3/16 shorter front to back than my P07 and the same height top to bottom. With the 15 round magazine the pistol is about 1/4" taller top to bottom than the P07. I'll mostly likely carry it with the 13 round magazine in and 15 round as spare/back up.
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Forgot to mention, I can use the iron sights with that adaptor plate under the Holoson. I can see the top 1/2 of the front sight. Not ideal, but usable in an emergency.
1.0 extractor "fits" in the 2.0 slide but I don't believe it's going to work. It won't feed from the magazine up and into the chamber. Not enough room between the hook on the front of the extractor and the breechface. I can barely force the case rim up there with the slide off and no barrel in the way to allow my big thumb/finger in there to push on the brass. Three 2.0 extractors on order (two to use, one for a spare - the 1.0 Shield extactors I have will just be spares for the older 1.0 shields) from Numrich.
Also ordered the small springs/pin for the extractor. Did someone say the purpose of those is to help hold the extractor pin in place? Oh, no more 2.0 extractor springs in stock at Numrich so I asked to be notified when they get more in. I just need the one I've got now (until I decide to finish the 2nd 4" slide.
Had to file a little on the bottom of the front sight to get it to move to the center of the slide. Darn brass punch marked the side of the slide when it bounced up off the sight one time. Might eventually wipe off with a few cleanings, like brass marks wipe off the outside of the slide after it bounce empties off it when firing/extracting/ejecting.
Looks good, just won't be shooting it (I'm sick anyway, at home test tells me I've got covid - runny nose, snot, sneezing, some sinus drainage and a slightly sore throat some mornings, light headache once in the last week or so and just feeling blah.) But I don't want to be around other people so I'll sit around the house for a week or so.
Got that barrel good and clean inside. After all the chemicals, brushes and patches yesterday (or was it day before?) I got the JB Bore paste in the mail today. Five to ten passes through the barrel with each patch with the bore paste on it. Toss that patch and repeat. After 4 of those sets (40 passes with polishing paste on the patches) I cleaned the barrel and did not see the fuzzy look anymore on the edges/corners of the lands. I went ahead and used the bore paste for 3 more sets of 10 passes and then cleaned the barrel with Hoppe's#9. Darn barrel is clean and shiny. First Hoppe's patch was dark, second and third were not. First dry patch was a little bit dark. Second/last dry patch looked great. Using a light reflected off a piece of white paper that barrel look pretty darn good.
Just need to shoot it now.
It's a "sleek" looking pistol compared to most others. Thin slide, thin frame, still 13+1 or even 15+1 so all the capacity of the bigger compact pistols in a narrow/flatter package. A greyhound (maybe a doberman) vs. bigger/wider dogs/pistols. Hey, I'm gonna nickname mine "The Doberman." It's already black colored. I wonder if I can find a set of FDE/tan colored grip panels for it (like the Talon grips).
Have a good evening guys/gals. I'm waiting on the 2.0 extractor now and by the time I get it I might feel good enough to head for the range.
Picture of the patches, JB Bore Paste patches on the left, Hoppe's#9 patches in the center, dry patches on the right.
With the 13 round magazine the pistol is about 3/16 shorter front to back than my P07 and the same height top to bottom. With the 15 round magazine the pistol is about 1/4" taller top to bottom than the P07. I'll mostly likely carry it with the 13 round magazine in and 15 round as spare/back up.
Forgot to mention, I can use the iron sights with that adaptor plate under the Holoson. I can see the top 1/2 of the front sight. Not ideal, but usable in an emergency.
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Went out to the bench in the garage with it. Got that extractor opened up just a little bit and now I can push a rim of the case up the breechface into position. More effort than my FS 1.0 9MM but at least now a case rim will move up into position.
I loaded a magazine with 6 rounds of ammo from one of the full sized mags. and started racking the slide. The round still gets hung part way into the chamber.
I removed the slide and took a bit more off the inside of the extractor were it was contacting the small diameter area of the case between the rim and the base. Put the extractor back in and was getting at least 3 or 4 of the 6 to feed and chamber when racking the slide.
By racking the slide I mean pulling it back and letting the recoil spring do it's job, not riding it closed.
I also noticed the chamber, right at the back left side is brassy as hell after only 18 tries to chamber a round. No brass "stains" on the right side edge of the chamber. Looks like the extractor is really pushing the rounds hard to the left. Put it all back together and came in the house. Grabbed a box of factory Win. 124 grain FMJ NATO ammo and got 10 rounds out. Loaded the in the magazine and each time two of the ten would hang up the same way. The cases show marks on them where they're dragging that left side rear edge/corner of the chamber.
I'm just going to wait on the 2.0 extractors I ordered a day or so back and see if that takes care of the possible alignment issue when chambering a round. I supposed I could shoot it like this but I'd rather not fight with a couple rounds of every ten not feeding/chambering right. And I'm still in the new and improved 5 day quarantine since my first positive test. Beats 14 days though.
I'm itching to see how it groups and get it sighted in but I have a couple good reasons to wait. Next week I'll feel better and the weather is supposed to get better again.
Darn thing looks good, too.
I loaded a magazine with 6 rounds of ammo from one of the full sized mags. and started racking the slide. The round still gets hung part way into the chamber.
I removed the slide and took a bit more off the inside of the extractor were it was contacting the small diameter area of the case between the rim and the base. Put the extractor back in and was getting at least 3 or 4 of the 6 to feed and chamber when racking the slide.
By racking the slide I mean pulling it back and letting the recoil spring do it's job, not riding it closed.
I also noticed the chamber, right at the back left side is brassy as hell after only 18 tries to chamber a round. No brass "stains" on the right side edge of the chamber. Looks like the extractor is really pushing the rounds hard to the left. Put it all back together and came in the house. Grabbed a box of factory Win. 124 grain FMJ NATO ammo and got 10 rounds out. Loaded the in the magazine and each time two of the ten would hang up the same way. The cases show marks on them where they're dragging that left side rear edge/corner of the chamber.
I'm just going to wait on the 2.0 extractors I ordered a day or so back and see if that takes care of the possible alignment issue when chambering a round. I supposed I could shoot it like this but I'd rather not fight with a couple rounds of every ten not feeding/chambering right. And I'm still in the new and improved 5 day quarantine since my first positive test. Beats 14 days though.
I'm itching to see how it groups and get it sighted in but I have a couple good reasons to wait. Next week I'll feel better and the weather is supposed to get better again.
Darn thing looks good, too.
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Hello, me again. Got some pictures. I'll share the two that illustrate the issue.
The ammo/cases is hanging up/dragging on the left side of the chamber at the entrance. Notice the nice yellow area where it's scraping the brass case.
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The right side of the chamber is clean.
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If you lay the barrel on it's right side, slightly insert a round and then push it goes in fine.
If you lay the barrel on it's left side, slightly insert a round and then push you can feel it catching/dragging/skipping as it goes in.
I will find my polishing drums and lapping compound for the dremel in the next day or two and take care of this.
I know, new barrel, I just don't have the patience to contact someone, convince them of an issue, ship it in and wait for repairs/replacements and wait for it to get shipped back - and maybe not be any better off.
The ammo/cases is hanging up/dragging on the left side of the chamber at the entrance. Notice the nice yellow area where it's scraping the brass case.
The right side of the chamber is clean.
If you lay the barrel on it's right side, slightly insert a round and then push it goes in fine.
If you lay the barrel on it's left side, slightly insert a round and then push you can feel it catching/dragging/skipping as it goes in.
I will find my polishing drums and lapping compound for the dremel in the next day or two and take care of this.
I know, new barrel, I just don't have the patience to contact someone, convince them of an issue, ship it in and wait for repairs/replacements and wait for it to get shipped back - and maybe not be any better off.
In my stash of goodies, I have a set of cylinder hones for revolver cylinders, that have been used before to super clean & leave a cross hatched pattern to a pistols chamber bore.
I have .355"/38/357/9mm IF you can't get that chamber to your liking.
Bought at Brownell's decades ago to fix a rough S&W 940 9mms revolver cylinder.
The more I see problems with those FILTHY barrels I would steer clear of them.
Hope they work out for you guys...
I don't think I will be buying one of those slides, and building a 4" Shield Upper
BUT?
The slides are drying up quickly.
4 left on eBay today & price went UP to $70
SMITH & WESSON M&P 2.0 9 SHIELD OPTIC READY SLIDE PC PRO C.O.R.E (SMI3007879 | eBay
11 on CDNN's website @ $59.99 + $9.99 S&H
SMITH & WESSON M&P 9 SHIELD OPTIC READY SLIDE
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I have .355"/38/357/9mm IF you can't get that chamber to your liking.
Bought at Brownell's decades ago to fix a rough S&W 940 9mms revolver cylinder.
The more I see problems with those FILTHY barrels I would steer clear of them.
Hope they work out for you guys...
I don't think I will be buying one of those slides, and building a 4" Shield Upper
BUT?The slides are drying up quickly.
4 left on eBay today & price went UP to $70
SMITH & WESSON M&P 2.0 9 SHIELD OPTIC READY SLIDE PC PRO C.O.R.E (SMI3007879 | eBay
11 on CDNN's website @ $59.99 + $9.99 S&H
SMITH & WESSON M&P 9 SHIELD OPTIC READY SLIDE
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I think the issue is that nobody makes a 4" Shield barrel except for those guys.In my stash of goodies, I have a set of cylinder hones for revolver cylinders, that have been used before to super clean & leave a cross hatched pattern to a pistols chamber bore.
I have .355"/38/357/9mm IF you can't get that chamber to your liking.
Bought at Brownell's decades ago to fix a rough S&W 940 9mms revolver cylinder.
The more I see problems with those FILTHY barrels I would steer clear of them.
Hope they work out for you guys...
I don't think I will be buying one of those slides, and building a 4" Shield Upper
The slides are drying up quickly.
4 left on eBay today & price went UP to $70
SMITH & WESSON M&P 2.0 9 SHIELD OPTIC READY SLIDE PC PRO C.O.R.E (SMI3007879 | eBay
11 on CDNN's website @ $59.99 + $9.99 S&H
SMITH & WESSON M&P 9 SHIELD OPTIC READY SLIDE
Back to watching AEW Wrestling
Gary/Hk
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Little surprised by the TR barrel experience, this is the first time I bought from them simply because I cannot source a factory 4", I waited for a while for the standard 4" but they were out of stock, so I asked them to ship me the extended 4.25" ported instead, think it is the same as M1A's. I finally got it today and noticed the Melonite coating is all over, including the ramp (it may be well polished underneath). Fitted into the 4" slide (with 2.0 extractor, spring, linear spring and keeper) over my 1.0 CA Shield frame, the lock-up is very good - so far so good. I also cycled couple 8-round clips of dummy rounds and they didn't seem to hang up in any sort of way. Maybe live fire is a different story. I probably won't have time for the range until I am done with a current annoying project.
From what I have read, people seem to like their bare stainless 1911 & Hi-power barrels, so I hope yours is simply not-to-spec? These guys at TR are hard to reach by email, I was told the other day they had email issues. While I have never been able to reach a live person when calling, they are pretty good in returning calls if you left a message. Since their stuff have life-time warranty, I think you should at least try to give them a chance to make things right.
One thing of note, most of you knew the 1.0 Shield recoil spring is a bear, OTOH, the 4" recoil assembly is a bit lighter and I had no trouble racking in new condition.
From what I have read, people seem to like their bare stainless 1911 & Hi-power barrels, so I hope yours is simply not-to-spec? These guys at TR are hard to reach by email, I was told the other day they had email issues. While I have never been able to reach a live person when calling, they are pretty good in returning calls if you left a message. Since their stuff have life-time warranty, I think you should at least try to give them a chance to make things right.
One thing of note, most of you knew the 1.0 Shield recoil spring is a bear, OTOH, the 4" recoil assembly is a bit lighter and I had no trouble racking in new condition.
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Okay. Success!
Got the 2.0 extractors in today (as well as some spare extractor pins and some spare little parts for the 2.0 extractors).
Headed to the garage bench. and installed the new 2.0 extractor after putting the parts in the bottom side of it. Decided to go ahead and use a new pin since the old one had been in/out several times.
Then I grabbed barrel. Never found the dremel attachments so I got small diameter round punch and wrapped a small piece of 600 grit auto sanding paper around it and worked on that left side sharp/rough corner at the back of the chamber. Didn't take long to removed the brassy area and make is bare steel.
I wiped it off, put the slide on the Plus frame, inserted a 13 round magazine and cycled 13 rounds through it twice by hand. No hiccups. 100% from the mag into the chamber and back out again.
I put the Holoson back on it, put the tools away and went to the dog pen to feed/treat the dogs before coming back into the house.
Range ready. Hopefully one day next week. If it shoots good the 4" PC slide stays on the Plus frame and the plus slide and optic go to my old Shield.
Got the 2.0 extractors in today (as well as some spare extractor pins and some spare little parts for the 2.0 extractors).
Headed to the garage bench. and installed the new 2.0 extractor after putting the parts in the bottom side of it. Decided to go ahead and use a new pin since the old one had been in/out several times.
Then I grabbed barrel. Never found the dremel attachments so I got small diameter round punch and wrapped a small piece of 600 grit auto sanding paper around it and worked on that left side sharp/rough corner at the back of the chamber. Didn't take long to removed the brassy area and make is bare steel.
I wiped it off, put the slide on the Plus frame, inserted a 13 round magazine and cycled 13 rounds through it twice by hand. No hiccups. 100% from the mag into the chamber and back out again.
I put the Holoson back on it, put the tools away and went to the dog pen to feed/treat the dogs before coming back into the house.
Range ready. Hopefully one day next week. If it shoots good the 4" PC slide stays on the Plus frame and the plus slide and optic go to my old Shield.
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I finally got the parts in the mail to add back to my 3.1" slide. (I had to cannibalize the slide cap, extractor spring and the rear sight set screw to put the 4" together.) As has been mentioned, the TR 4" barrel took many cleanings and some bore paste to get clean enough to shoot, but I had no problems bench cycling 13 rounds; nor did I have any FTF or FTEs at the range over 50 rounds. I'll take the 3.1" back to the range soon.
I really like the idea of being able to turn the Plus from a range pistol to a carry pistol in 4.2 seconds..Like an XKE.
This group is rapidly turning into a sub forum...
"Will the real Shield Plus please stand up?"
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I really like the idea of being able to turn the Plus from a range pistol to a carry pistol in 4.2 seconds..Like an XKE.
This group is rapidly turning into a sub forum...
"Will the real Shield Plus please stand up?"
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Got the 5 new magazine followers (the 15 round mags.) modified this afternoon and three of them degreased and waxed (2 coats) inside and outside this afternoon. Still have two of the new ones plus the one that came with the Equalizer to get done. Then the 13's and the two 10's. Not sure of the number of 13's, maybe about 8 of them.
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@HEADKNOCKER …I’ll take that as a high compliment coming from a collector of your stature…👍😊
Thanks!
Thanks!
NOW I WANT A 4" SLIDE... DARN!
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I've always liked the looks of the long slide guns. The 5" M&P pistols, the FNS Long Slide pistols, the CZ P09 pistols, etc.
The Shield Plus with a 4" slide isn't 5" but with the smaller frame it strongly resembles the bigger guns. Just gotta see how it shoots.
Weather forecast for early next week shows Monday or Tuesday afternoons as likely range days for us (or me if she decides something else is more important.)
The Shield Plus with a 4" slide isn't 5" but with the smaller frame it strongly resembles the bigger guns. Just gotta see how it shoots.
Weather forecast for early next week shows Monday or Tuesday afternoons as likely range days for us (or me if she decides something else is more important.)
CDNN shows 4 & 9 4" Shield Slides Tonight...
Price Increased to $75 on eBay
Drying up QUICKLY!
Now I think I want one...
I have always liked LOOOOONG SLIDES Too!
Sold my Glock 17L & 24...
Price Increased to $75 on eBay
Drying up QUICKLY!
Now I think I want one...
I have always liked LOOOOONG SLIDES Too!
Sold my Glock 17L & 24...
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