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Wanted to have the trigger pull reduced on my new M&P 9mm. Won't ever use it for home defense, only for competition. Trigger seems very heavy. I'm new to this game, but my trigger is heavier than any of the other guys guns. I'm also shooting consistently low.



First the guy behind the desk told me a Glock 34 would have been a better choice. Then went on to tell me the benefits of the 1911's as he started to fill out the paperwork.



I asked some questions he couldn't answer so he got the guy that does the pistol work. That guy then stated that they won't do any work on the M&P trigger.



As an authorize S&W repair center he isn't allowed to work on the trigger. It is a liability issue.



I did alot of shopping for this thing, and now I feel like I've been taken. The guys at the shop told me that the M&P isn't really for competition, it's for military & police.



I think the guys saw me turning pale as the blood flowed from my face as I thought "my wife is going to kill me after spending all this this money" also because she said I should go buy what everyone else is using, don't try and swim upstream. Maybe I should have listened to her...



The guys realized I was pissed so they told me as I shoot it more the trigger will lighten up. I've already shot around 4-500 rounds.



Depressed....

Bruce
 
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Gun-counter geniuses... one more reason Bud's dot com is my "local" gun shop. As you poke around this forum, you'll find more than a few that shoot M&P for competition and the Burwell or Bowie trigger job.



Your choice was a fine one IMHO. I shopped and pondered the thought of a polymer pistol. Kept coming back to the M&P.



Sometimes it is good to swim upstream




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Budsgunshop.com + Burwellgunsmithing.com = happy man.



I've completely stopped going to any local gun stores/ranges due to the non-stop bullshit, lies, and utter crap the people their spew out. It gets old - so does paying high prices for crappy work, or as you found out getting no work at all.



Also plenty of people in competition are switching over from the Glocks to M&P's.
 
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You need to learn that the local gun shop is not a reliable source of anything and neither are most "gunsmiths" and I'm using that term loosly as to not insult the real craftsmen out there. Now, maybe S&W tells them they can't do trigger jobs, I may buy that.



However the M&P is a superb competition gun, in my opinion an improvment over the Glock which hasn't considerably changed in some time, and a much more shooter friendly platform that most guns out there.



I cringe all the time when my local shop gives people advice on competition shooting. I never see them at the matches, so what exactly qualifies them to tell a shopper what makes a good competition gun. You should ask them what guns they shoot in competition, at what clubs, and how they are doing. Most often I hear things like "Well I don't want to learn bad habits for the street". At least I never heard the "My special training is secret and I'm not allowed to show it in public" but others have.



On the bright side, there are competent M&P smiths out there and even if Dan is backed up, head over to you local match and ask around. The competitors are likely to know who in your area can do a trigger job. I did my own, but I've been doing my own work for some time so I wasn't afraid of screwing it up.
 
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I think everyone has already covered how full of it people at gun shops are. I'm seeing M&P's on the hips of a lot of people these days including instructors at Gunsite, home of the 1911, and the best pistol training center in the world.



Glocks and 1911's are fine weapons but 1911's have their own set of issues including many points of failure and Glocks feel like a block of wood in your hand compared to an M&P. I was issued 1911's for many years in the Marines, have been shooting them for 30+ years and Glocks for 10 or so. It is very common at competition matches to see people with 1911's clearing jams etc. Glocks are certainly reliable and have a great metal coating and consistent trigger but I doubt I will buy any more of them after owning an M&P .40. I am planning on buying more M&P's though. I prefer the ergonomics and trigger feel. The M&P is also very accurate, surprisingly so in fact.
 
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You don' need a trigger job either in my opinion. After shooting the pistol the trigger will smooth out and everything will be just fine. Learn the basics and how your weapon performs and you'll do fine. The only thing worse than a Mall Ninja is a Gunshop Commando!



You made an excellent decision and enjoy it and quit second guessing yourself.
 
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Thats a good point. While I'm sure the Burwell etc. trigger jobs are excellent I see no need for one after putting a few hundred rounds downrange. Since I only compete with what I use for self defense I tend to stay away from most modifications.
 
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longhollow said:
Wanted to have the trigger pull reduced on my new M&P 9mm. Won't ever use it for home defense, only for competition. Trigger seems very heavy. I'm new to this game, but my trigger is heavier than any of the other guys guns. I'm also shooting consistently low.



Bruce
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Do you by chance have a Mass. version of the M&P? They have a significantly different trigger and our advise might be different if that is what you have.
 
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Thanks for all the replies. I'm in California.



Feeling better today... A good nights rest can do wonders.



Many of the reasons you all have noted are the very reasons I went with the M&P.



Normally someone telling me I should have started with a Glock or 1911 causes me to smile and think to myself "I know something you don't know." But on top of the gunsmith telling me he won't work on the gun, I was pretty down.



The gunsmith, Bolsa Gunsmithing in SoCal, has done excellet work on my .22's and I won't think twice about going back to them.



As of now here is my game plan. I'm going to continue to shoot the gun following the advice given here that the more rounds the better the trigger. I'll also look into working on the gun myself, I'm pretty handy with small tools. That would also give me a good education on the way the firearm works.



Thanks!!!
 
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I love my M&P, I would not trade it for a Glock. (although G34 does have a longer barrel and sight radius so in theary it might be a better choice for competition). But M&P has better ergos, stock sights, looks way better and I would say has a better stock trigger.
 
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I'm very surprised... I was *pleasantly* susprised at the accuracy and overall shootability of the M&P .40, as someone who has shot a LOT of different firearms.



When I decided to find a reliable .40 cal for my next carry weapon, I shot just about every .40 I could get my hands on, including the Glocks, Berettas, and a number of Sigs. I laid them all out on the table, and fired a few clips through each one. (My range will rent the pistols they carry for a modest fee.)



As I blasted away at silhouettes, I noted the differences, trying to find the best of the lot for me. Most of them were what I consider Median Weapons: serviceable, likely very reliable, but not particularly outstanding in any respect.



Then I picked up, loaded and fired the M&P. I have to tell you, folks, I was shocked at the capability of this weapon in my hands. It was FAR AND AWAY the most accurate of the lot for me. At 10 yards, I chewed a nice, pretty hole the size of a silver dollar out of the X ring. The trigger was consistent and pleasant, the weapon didn't jump, I re-acquired the X with ease, the sights lined up perfectly, and it fit my hand like a custom grip.



It was really a pleasant surprise to find a weapon that performed so well, and cost so much less than the sigs and glocks I had been shooting. I think in any IDPA competition or such, you would have no problem winning outright with this pistol in stock form. If you're going IPSC or something like that, you might "race it up" a bit, but for normal IDPA or 3-gun-shoots I wouldn't change a damn thing on this pistol.
 
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What part of CAli? Its usual that salesmen try to get you to buy something they know.. its always hard to try something new to them.



As you read on this site, you will hear and read that ALOT of people LOVE the M&P
 
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