Just got done shooting a friends M & P .40 and all I can say is WOW! I saw one in a local gun shop as a kit with a holster, 2 x-tra mags (3 total), mag case, different palm grips, case, etc for $600 cash. I was thinking about it a little and the price was dropping by the minute and the guy was also going to throw in 3 boxes of ammo too! I'm sure I'll find the answer somewhere on this board but is that a good deal or should I wait till the next gun show rolls around?? The one I shot was an incredible feeling firearm. In fact, it was the first semi auto I have ever fired. I have been a tried and true wheel gun guy for the realibility factor and ease of maintaining, but since I have played with the M & P .40, I think I'll need to add one to the collection soon.