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James Goldberg was never in trouble with the law, never even had a traffic ticket. And he had no difficulty obtaining a gun permit to carry a pistol to his job as night manager of a liquor store for protection.



So when Glastonbury police seized Goldberg's gun and revoked his permit - following his arrest on charges of breach of peace June 21 at Chili's restaurant after an employee complained about seeing the gun under his T-shirt - friends and family, even the Wethersfield police chief who signed off on the gun permit, figured it was a misunderstanding that would be quickly corrected.



The misdemeanor charge was dismissed about a month later in Superior Court in Manchester, leaving Goldberg, 29, with a clean record. But he will have to wait until May 14, 2009, for a hearing before the Board of Firearms Permit examiners, a civilian board that hears appeals on revoked or denied gun permits.



Goldberg, who has hired an attorney and plans to file a federal lawsuit over the delay, is not alone.


read the full article at the Hartford Courant Website



Just thought I'd share, see if anyone has any thoughts on the matter. Discussion is always fun :)
 

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Being in AZ, there's three thoughts that come to my mind...



1. In AZ you would have been breaking the law (can't carry into a business that sells alcohol for ON-premises consumption), thus the revocation and MAYBE the misdemeanor would stick.



2. IF it was legal to carry in Chili's, it wouldn't matter if his weapon became exposed...open carry is 100% legal here, so having a CCW would cover him on all fronts.



3. Even in that case, the laws are always being interpreted in different ways and twisted to one's will. So, luck of the draw would come into play for which police officer, judge, and/or jury you got.







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wow this sucks, I will try my best to keep my weapon hidden at all times.
 

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mad212 said:
wow this sucks, I will try my best to keep my weapon hidden at all times.


yup me 2
 

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In Texas, it is extremely bad to display a weapon openly...



HOWEVER, the majority of cops don't care and (at least around here) usually make sure their loved ones have CHLs also. I often use my CHL as my actual ID, because my driver's license will be 6 years old in July, and I look nothing like I did @ 18.
 

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In Texas, it is extremely bad to display a weapon openly...



HOWEVER, the majority of cops don't care and (at least around here) usually make sure their loved ones have CHLs also. I often use my CHL as my actual ID, because my driver's license will be 6 years old in July, and I look nothing like I did @ 18.


and when that doesnt work you always got your belt buckle
 

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101Combat Vet said:
[quote name='Grimwulff']In Texas, it is extremely bad to display a weapon openly...



HOWEVER, the majority of cops don't care and (at least around here) usually make sure their loved ones have CHLs also. I often use my CHL as my actual ID, because my driver's license will be 6 years old in July, and I look nothing like I did @ 18.


and when that doesnt work you always got your belt buckle
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LOL I don't have a big one, but my fiancee has one from raising a 1st place goat... it is bigger then my hand. :?
 

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interesting thing I learned after researching into this article...



the laws in my state (Connecticut) say NOTHING about being required to carry concealed. I looked at my "CCW" permit and realized it doesn't say "CCW" on it. It doesn't even have the word concealed on it. it reads "Permit to carry Pistols and Revolvers"



Of course, common sense dictates that in most situation open carry is bad idea and in the case of the poor guy in this article it got him arrested for breach of peace and the loss of his permit for 2-years
 

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I always thought the bar and restraunt were considerated seperated parts, hence why underage people can be present after certain hours? And that those type of restraunts had a different alcohol permit(Class something vs something), which also would along someone to carry.



^^ That event shows right there some cops are power hungry, sure they can charge and charge away, but ulitmitely it gets settled in court. (A whole other problem in the US, where the party bring the case (public or private) does not get punished if they dont win. That would stop a ton of cases if the plantiff had to face punishment for losing)
 

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Just makes me glad to live in PA where if you have a permit you can go anywhere you want w/ your gun with exception to Philly. and Federal buildings.

Bars don't matter and contrary to some beliefs there's not some magic law about how much you can drink. (some guys claim if you carry you're legally entitled to no drinks, or one or two depending on state but that's not the case..at least in PA anyway.
 
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