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My concealed carry weapon, a walther PPS, was kicking rounds straight back over my head and also didn't completely eject a couple of empty brass cases. I was chatting with one of the counter guys and he was telling me about the lack of quality control on WWB ammo. He told me the charges aren't measured and then he mentioned other things about the primers and poor overall cartridge quality. He showed me a barrel from a beretta that had a chunk of metal missing about 1/2 way down the barrel, which he said was caused by WWB. OF COURSE he had some better ammo to sell me...



Any truth to this? Does use of WWB precipitate FTF's for FTE's that wouldn't be caused by higher end ammo?



FWIW, my M&P 9mm loves the stuff. VERY accurate and no issues whatsoever...
 

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i think the quality control on the real cheapish ammo is no doubt not as good as the better ammo. but for what its worth i have dumped close to 1000 rounds ow wwb thru my to m&p 40s 1 full size 1 compact. only had 1 that got hung trying to load and that was probably my grip and dirty gun?
 

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I would say he's trying to sell you a line of BS. Then he said they don't measure the powder? WHAT KIND OF MORON WOULD EVEN SAY SOMETHING THAT STUPID!



It is probably loaded slightly lighter than the high priced ammo, but there's nothing wrong with it, it's good practice ammo.
 

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First time I bought ammo for a handgun, the ubiquitous "guy behind the counter at the gun shop" whipped out his loaded Glock 19, ejected the magazine, and showed me the hand-loaded self defense ammo he was using. It was some kind of hollowpoint, into which he had poured some epoxy and then capped it off with a primer. As he explained it to me, the primer would force the bullet to expand more reliably and would "blow up a person's insides" or something like that.



Moral of the story: your average gun store commando doesn't know nearly as much about guns and ammunition as he thinks. I've met some who are idiot savants, but most have just enough knowledge to be dangerous to themselves and their customers. And then there are the ones who are more than willing to take advantage of people if they think it will earn them a better sale ...
 

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I've put probably 200 rounds of WWB through my M&P fullsize and only had one problem, a FTE, but I don't know if you can blame that on the ammo. I've since swtiched to CCI Blazer 115gr for my practice ammo and haven't had any problems. Plus, it burns a little cleaner.
 

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The clerk is a moron. Though technically I guess very few charges are actually measured, most are just dispensed :twisted: . I measure my rifle powder chargers, but I only dispense my pistol charges.



The clerk is still a moron.
 

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The charges in factory made ammo are dispensed by volume, just like the powder measure that most people use when reloading, they know what volume equals the weight of charge they want. The only time an ammo manufacturer actually weighs charges is when they are developing the load for sale.
 

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I used to used to use the Remington UMC ammo for practice but I have found the WWB to be much cleaner. The UMC was smokey. I still buy the 100rnd boxes of UMC to keep around as SHTF ammo.



DON'T get ammo advice from some moron behind the counter at Walmart.



I used to have a Bersa 9mm that wouldn't group worth a darn using WWB but did fine with UMC. My other guns work great with the WWB.
 

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wwb is a hell of a lot better than wolf.. Ive ran through over a thousand rounds in my mp .40c and havent had any problems. (with a field strip and quick run through at 400rds) don't wast your money on good ammo for practice. It is good to get the feel of higher grain ammo though...
 

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I've shot well over 1,000 rounds of WWB in my XD40, M&P 9mm and 1911s with zero problems. And, I've reloaded the cases many times with reduced loads with no problems.



The 115 gr WWB clad bullet 9mm round is very accurate in my pistol. The other day, I shot a .63" group (4 shots. Naturally, I pulled the 5th) offhand at 7 yards. I wish I could find a load for my 124 gr cast bullets that shot that good.



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sholling said:
Other than being a little dirty there is nothing wrong with WWB.


What is the next step above WWB?
 
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