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I currently own a Glock 19 as my "does it all gun". I'm finally fed up w/ the feel of the trigger and want to move to another striker fired weapon. I already know that I shoot the XD well it all of its sizes. Have shot and M&P 9 once some time ago and don't really rememeber it.



It's pretty much down to XD vs. M&P for me and I'm leaning towards XD right now simply out of experience. I'm looking for something that will be great for HD and fun at the range and in 9mm. Obviously it also has to be reliable! Trigger is also a big sticking point for me since it's the biggest reason for me leaving Glock.



The XD has a single-action feel to it although its technically DA. How about the M&P? Will it "shoot in" as I put more rounds through the weapon?



It'd also be nice to have an American made gun as well
Help convince me!



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The M&P trigger will shoot in rather quickly and nicely. I was going to send mine to Burwell but it's getting better and better with time.



As for which one, only you can answer that. However, I like the M&P because it's made in America and S&W seems poised to make an aggressive run at the LE markets.
 

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One of the reasons why I went with a M&P over an XD was the trigger.
 

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I had an XD9 and XD40 but now have an M&P9 and M&P40. I am a happy camper.



They were all accurate.



The XD9 service had many FTE's.

The XD40 Tactical worked flawlessly and was quite accurate but split my thumb nuckle open after about 50 or so rounds. I was always bleeding on my ammo.

The M&P beavertail does not make me bleed and shoots just as well as the XD.



I now have a scar on my right thumb nuckle but don't bleed on my ammo.





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My wife has an XD .45 compact and out of the box, I liked the trigger on it better than any of my M&P's when they were new; however, given enough range time, the M&P trigger will smooth out and will be very comparable. This being said, I went for a Burwell trigger job and now I like the feel of the M&P much better than the XD. For me though, the real sell for the M&P was how it felt in my hand. I do not like the grip safety on the XD but my wife loves it; different strokes for different folks.

Both are fine guns, good companies, good service, etc.
 

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The first thing I looked at was the XD. I just couldn't get past the Frankinpistol looks and I have no interest in adding to my collection of 3" barreled pistols. I much prefer the looks, ergonomics, and trigger of the M&P, and the 3-1/2" barrel on the compacts. It's also made in the USA which never hurts in my opinion. I'd rather target my spending toward keeping Americans working.
 

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XD, high bore axis, parts I don't want or need like grip safety, so-so trigger. M&P has better trigger once broken in although lately I'm seeing good triggers out of the box, more ergonomic, made by American company.



You are aware that right now Smith has a $50 rebate and two new mags on all M&P's?
 

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I owned 2 4" 40 XD's one 5" and one 3".. Liked them all till I shot the M&P.



I'd put 1000 rounds in a day through an xd and have a sore hand. With the M&P I can double that and not be hurting.
 

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I really appreciate all the responses so far.





It's good to know that the trigger will break in. My Glock trigger has been the same from day one. I am a consistent low/left shooter w/ it and am trying to get away from that. Glock is the only weapon I've done that with!





Might see an M&P in my future!



Another question about the trigger. Do you think it gets "lighter" the more you shoot it? They advertise around 5.5#, but wondering if the break in is actually lighter. Thoughts?
 

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This might be a better thought out point on my trigger preference:



I don't like my glock because it feels long and gritty.



The XDs that I've shot have a light take up, then a CRISP break. I really enjoy this about the XD. This is probably attributed to the fact that the XD is single action (for all intents and purposes).



Is the M&P similar in the respect that the stricker is full cocked? The info on S&W's website doesn't seem very clear about this. My goal is to get something with a CRISP break!



Appreciate your patience!
 

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I own an XD45 Tactical (5") and a M&P9c.

Both are keepers.

In the full size gun I prefer the XD45 due to the 5" bbl.,grip safety,13 rds. and loaded chamber indicater

which I can feel and is not a funnel for dirt.

In the compact guns the MP's 3.5" bbl and shorter grip length make it more desirable for CCW.

The sub-compact XD just didn't feel good in my hand.

Both have been 100% reliable with fmj and defensive ammo.

The XD doesn't like SWC bullets, everything else is fine.

Both triggers smooth out nicely making them easy to shoot quick and accurate.

The MP9c is impressively accurate and mild for such a small gun.

I'm very pleased with both.

There might be an XD45 Compact in my future, they really got it right with the 45.



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Nozeman said:
Another question about the trigger. Do you think it gets "lighter" the more you shoot it? They advertise around 5.5#, but wondering if the break in is actually lighter. Thoughts?
I can't speak for the 9mm or the 40, I have an M&P45. Out of the box the trigger is much much heavier than the M&P9s that I've molested in the store. Roughly 9lbs vs 6ish. Within 200 squeezes the trigger dropped 2lbs and smoothed way out. The funny thing is that it doesn't feel that heavy. Anyway I like it enough that this old 1911 guy went ahead and ordered an M&P9c.
 

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Sholling,



Hope you like your M&P9c as much as I do.

I was ready to get a Kahr when I tried the M&P.

It was a no brainer , almost the same size with almost twice the fire power in an easier to control

more accurate, 100% reliable, less expensive gun.



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nunnya said:
Hope you like your M&P9c as much as I do.

I was ready to get a Kahr when I tried the M&P.

It was a no brainer , almost the same size with almost twice the fire power in an easier to control

more accurate, 100% reliable, less expensive gun.
Thank you. I have a fairly wide ranging collection including a Kahr PM40. Not something I like shooting any more than necessary to stay proficient just because 40S&W is a bit recoil intensive for a 17oz subcompact. Now that the trigger of my M&P45 is starting to wear in it sort of reminds me of a heavy version of the buttery Kahr trigger. I also have a 25oz Kimber Ultra Carry (3" 1911) so I'm not really sure why I bought the M&P9c but I'm sure that I'll love it.
 

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Nozeman said:
This might be a better thought out point on my trigger preference:



I don't like my glock because it feels long and gritty.



The XDs that I've shot have a light take up, then a CRISP break. I really enjoy this about the XD. This is probably attributed to the fact that the XD is single action (for all intents and purposes).



Is the M&P similar in the respect that the stricker is full cocked? The info on S&W's website doesn't seem very clear about this. My goal is to get something with a CRISP break!



Appreciate your patience!


I can't speak with authority to the cocking question, though I was under the impression that the striker in the M&P rests in the partially cocked position, like the Glock.



As for the feel, in my opinion, the M&P trigger is crisp. It has a light take-up followed by a fairly crisp break. The break feels a lot like a single action trigger to me, though a tad heavier than what you would get in a SAO auto like the 1911. I have heard varying descriptions of the reset, but on mine it is relatively short and feels very positive. The trigger feel, overall, improves tremendously within a few hundred rounds and/or dry-fires.



On the other hand, bear in mind that everything stated above applies exclusively to the 9mm and .40 S&W versions. I dry fired an M&P 45 the other day and WOW, what a difference! The trigger felt awful compared to my M&P 40. Much too heavy for my taste! If I were ever to buy an M&P 45, it would have to go for a trigger job.
 

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I've seen alot of Glock shooters cure that with a lighter trigger. Still can't beat the Glock reset which I love but overall the M&P trigger is more comfortable. Pretty much all the .45's I had seen had really hard trigger pulls out of the box except my second one which I bought a week or two ago. it has a good trigger out of the box requiring minimal break in so maybe S&W is on the issue.



Nozeman said:
I really appreciate all the responses so far.

It's good to know that the trigger will break in. My Glock trigger has been the same from day one. I am a consistent low/left shooter w/ it and am trying to get away from that. Glock is the only weapon I've done that with!
 

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It's pretty much down to XD vs. M&P for me and I'm leaning towards XD right now simply out of experience. I'm looking for something that will be great for HD and fun at the range and in 9mm. Obviously it also has to be reliable! Trigger is also a big sticking point for me since it's the biggest reason for me leaving Glock.



The XD has a single-action feel to it although its technically DA. How about the M&P? Will it "shoot in" as I put more rounds through the weapon?

Help convince me!



Noze


Even the glock guys I talk to that have an M&P say they like the M&P trigger better.

The XD has some serious issues with rust and is noted for not so great customer service.

Also everything I have ever seen or read lists the XD as Single Action where as the M&P is DA.
 

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I was under the impression the XD rust issues were resolved when they started shipping all versions with Melonite a while ago.



Between XD and Glock I prefer the simplicity and lower bore axis of Glock. Between Glock, XD, and M&P, the M&P wins for ergonomic's, trigger, support, and looks.



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It's pretty much down to XD vs. M&P for me and I'm leaning towards XD right now simply out of experience. I'm looking for something that will be great for HD and fun at the range and in 9mm. Obviously it also has to be reliable! Trigger is also a big sticking point for me since it's the biggest reason for me leaving Glock.



The XD has a single-action feel to it although its technically DA. How about the M&P? Will it "shoot in" as I put more rounds through the weapon?

Help convince me!



Noze


Even the glock guys I talk to that have an M&P say they like the M&P trigger better.

The XD has some serious issues with rust and is noted for not so great customer service.

Also everything I have ever seen or read lists the XD as Single Action where as the M&P is DA.[/quote]
 

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Rusting XDs is now a thing of the past. The slides of the 9s and 40s are finished in Melonite - the kind that prevents rust.
 

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BateleurRGB said:
I can't speak with authority to the cocking question, though I was under the impression that the striker in the M&P rests in the partially cocked position, like the Glock.


The M&P is much closer to the XD (which is essentially fully cocked) than the Glock (which is about halfway cocked). None of them -- XD, Glock, or M&P -- possesses a full trigger stroke that completely cocks and releases the action, which is the traditional definition of a true DA.
 
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