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I'm looking at one of these to use mainly for range practice. I like the idea of the changeable grips as I have small hands. The SW990 has adjustale sights which I would count as a plus. Evewn though the SW990 is priced higher, I get the impression that S&W is touting the M&P as superior. Can anyone here discuss the relative merits of these two? Best place to buy in DFW area?



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990- plastic staked sights, M&P, dovetailed. More often than not if your doing target you'll want a fiber optic, and I'm not sure if they offer that for the 990, but Speed shooters offers them for the M&P.
 

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If it is the SW99, I'd pick that first. But the SW990L has a heavier trigger pull than the prev SW99 model (which they stopped making last year). U can get the Walther P99 w/ the A/S trigger - which is really the original version that S&W cloned.



Between ONLY the SW990L and the M&P, I'd pick the M&P.
 

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I can consider the Walther versions as well. The P99 AS is about $120 more than what I can get the M&P for. I'm leaning towards the M&P...

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Having owned the P99 in both 9mm and 40 and now owing the M&P, I can say without any reservation, the M&P would be the pistol I would go after. The felt recoil is much easier to handle on the M&P line than it is on the P line.



The M&P is all that, and a bag of chips!!
 

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My current 'standard’ by which everything is measured is an older (99) Interarms Walther P99 .40. I owned this Walther since before I started keeping accurate round counts, but it has somewhere between 7500 and 8000 rounds through it. It has had one single failure out of all those rounds, which was a failure to fire on some rather hard primer ammo which was solved with a second trigger pull. Amazingly, the weapon looks like it has no more than 100 rounds through it.



The recoil is noticeably harsher than my USP .45 and slightly worse than my USP Compact in .357sig.



I’ve seen many of the more recent P99s and they have been fairly crappy by comparison.



The newer ones have a problem with magazine floor plate failures. I believe there was an Air Marshal whose P99 or SW equivalent dumped its rounds as he was boarding a flight. Luckily, the new magazine I bought just disassembled itself while sitting on my desk rather than in my weapon. Needless to say, I was none too pleased.



There were some major speed bumps when S&W got their hands in the mix with Walther. I know a friend of mine had a recent PPK/S that was shooting two full feet left at 20 feet. I’ve seen the slide coatings come off with the scrape of a fingernail. Apparently these problems have been rectified, but it still lost my ‘warm fuzzy’ for recent "Walther" products.



While I’d take the P99C over the M&PC simply because I don’t like glock action pistols in my pocket, I think the M&P is superior to the full size P99…



YMMV
 

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Thanks, I went ahead and got the M&P this afternoon. Looking forward to taking it to the range soon. Feels pretty good in the hand, I woundnt mind an x-small grip though.
 

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I just got my 2nd p99 this weekend. I LUUUUV p99s just like shipwreck. now I have the AS and the QA and I can't figure out which one I like better.
I also love my M&P but the P99 is perfect for carry IMHO. I would like to get a M&P9c but for some reason I hate subcompacts.
 

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The newer ones have a problem with magazine floor plate failures. I believe there was an Air Marshal whose P99 or SW equivalent dumped its rounds as he was boarding a flight. Luckily, the new magazine I bought just disassembled itself while sitting on my desk rather than in my weapon. Needless to say, I was none too pleased.


The mag issue was only on the 40 cal mags...
 

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I would select the M&P without question. My agency tried the SW-990L and everyone who tested it hated the heavy tringger pull and long reset. I had brought in my Walther P99 A/S and most everyone loved that trigger system, but it wasn't a DAO variant.
 
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