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these scores are based on 5 shooters on a scale of 1-5

Ergonomics

Glock 17 20

H&K P2000 23

S&W M&P 9 24

Springfield XD 23

Para-Ord LDA 23



Trigger Control

Glock 17 16

H&K P2000 16

S&W M&P 9 19

Springfield XD 18

Para-Ord LDA 19



Sights

Glock 17 19

H&K P2000 18

S&W M&P 9 20

Springfield XD 20

Para-Ord LDA 21



Accuracy

Glock 17 20

H&K P2000 21

S&W M&P 9 22

Springfield XD 20

Para-Ord LDA 22





Ease of Reloading

Glock 17 21

H&K P2000 14

S&W M&P 9 22

Springfield XD 20

Para-Ord LDA 21
 

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I saw that today too, pretty neat that the M&P is becoming the gun rag's little darling. Move over glock! Just WAIT until the .45 hits the market, all the old school 1911 gunners will be tickled pink and gushing, not just the current tupperware lovers.
 

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jeri534 said:
these scores are based on 5 shooters on a scale of 1-5


OK just to do a little critical evaluation: 5 shooters is hardly a large enough sample size to be statically significant by any one's standards.



Then even worse:

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Sights

Glock 17 19
19/25 ? Glock sights? The test subjects must have been on crack




Sorry, just feeling a little cynical today.
 

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One comment, they mentioned the Para Ord LDA, I've shot one of those, and it had the most incredible trigger action, and this was a stock pistol, I have shot revolvers competitively for a number of years, shooting PPC in the Master Class, and I was very impressed by that trigger, I would compare it to a match grade double action revolver with an extremely good trigger job.
 

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I own two LDA's including a 1640 Limited that I used in USPSA Production. The trigger is very good but it has a veeerrrrryyyy long travel and reset and to my knowledge there is nothing to be done about it. The M&P isn't as light or smooth but can be manipulated in pull, length, and reset.



I'm not surprised at the M&P's good showing in this mini-test. I think we're on the cusp of seeing the pistol become a major player. Kudo's to us for being smart enough to own one before it becomes "fashionable."
 

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As previously stated, the M&P is going to be the "Glockkiller" IFF S&W will meet or exceed Glock's customer service - which in many ways is a tall order.
 

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S&W will meet or exceed Glock's customer service
Having had considerable first hand as well as anecdotal experience with Smith's customer service, I think that's a given. I had the opportunity to put 3K rounds through both the .40 and the 9MM a few months ago. Our objective was to put the rounds downrange as quickly as possible in order to get the guns hot to see if they would choke. We got them hot alright, 140F IIRC for the .40, but couldn't stop them. The availability of the pistol in .45 puts it at the top of my buy list. IMO, perfection has been surpassed...
 

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for Smith's advertising campaign...

perfection has been surpassed...
There you go, Smith and Wesson's new advertising tag line. That would make the Glock guys turn S&W blue in the face...
 

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I've been a Glock guy for a long time. I'll be the first one to admit that none of them are perfect.
 
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