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This is the rating for a M&P in a updated firearm bluebook. meaning this is what you can expect to get for a used M&P









MODEL M&P

- 9mm Para., .40 S&W, or .357 SIG cal., DAO, 4 1/4 in. black Melonite stainless steel barrel, large black Zytel polymer frame reinforced with stainless steel chasis, matte black Melonite stainless steel slide, 10, 15 or 17 shot mag., ramp front sights, Novak lo-Mount Carry rear sight, 6 1/2 lbs. trigger pull, 18 degree grip angle, Picatinny rail in front of triggerguard, three interchangable grip sizes, 24 1/4 oz. New 2006.







Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%

MSR $695 $475 $355 $260 $200 $170 $145 $120
 

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Why would you want to sell one? If you want an investment, buy a custom pistol, put it in your safe, hold on to it for a bunch of years, then sell it for what you paid for it (in inflated dollars). If you want a shooter, buy it, shoot it a lot and don't worry about money, consider what it's worth.



But that's just my humble opinion...
 

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Value on a pistol is like a car, especially with buds selling so cheap.
 

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Don't buy a gun expecting to sell it. Had to explain this to a friend. Especially in the days of internet competition, you will lose tons of money on your gun.



On the bright side according to the book I could sell my M&Ps for more than I bought them even at 98%
 

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Great...I could sell mine for more than I paid for it...but then I didn't buy it to sell it! It's value to me is more than your book value anyway because I value my life with it.........
 

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Here are the glock 19/23 numbers:

MSRP $641

100%- $495

98%- $425

95%- $345



XD 4in versions:

MSRP- $498

100%- $430

98%- $380

95%- $340

90%- $295

80%- $265

70%- $235

60%- $200



The only problem I see is there are not enough being sold out there yet to get accurate numbers. In years to come the numbers will come up, and I think you will see them drop the last few 80-60% like they did to the glocks as the finish just will not wear down like a blued gun does.



OK enough of that junk. You do not buy a plastic gun as investment. They are bought to shoot the crap out of period.



If you want Hierloom guns buy old steel guns not new plastic guns.
 

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Thanks Dan, I was wondering exactly what you noted. How in the heck could a M&P even reach the 60% rating at this point in time. Why I choose to feed the trolls, I'll never know.
 
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MODEL 17/17C SPORT/SERVICE

- 9mm Para. cal., double action, polymer frame, mag., trigger and other pistol parts, 4.49 in. steel hexagonal rifled barrel with (Model 17C, new 1999) or w/o ports, steel slide and springs, 10 (C/B 1994), 17* (reintroduced late 2004), or 19* (reintroduced late 2004) shot mag., adj. (Sport Model) or fixed (Service Model) rear sight, includes lockable pistol box, cable lock, cleaning rod, and other accessories, extra mag. and spare rear sight, 24.75 oz. Importation began late 1985.

Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%

MSR $599 $475 $425 $395 $365 $335 $295 $250

Add $22 for Model 17C with fixed (new 2004) or adj. (disc. 2003) rear sight.



Add $119 for competition model w/ adj. sights (Model 17CC, mfg. 2000-2003).





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MODEL 22/22C SPORT/SERVICE

- .40 S&W cal., similar to Model 17, except has locking block pin above trigger guard, 4.49 in. barrel, 10 (C/B 1994) or 15* (reintroduced late 2004) shot mag., 25.5 oz. New 1990.

Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%

MSR $599 $475 $425 $395 $365 $335 $295 $250

Add $34 for Model 22C with adj. (disc. 2003) or fixed (new 2004) rear sight.





X-TREME DUTY (XD MODELS) - 5 IN. TACTICAL

- 9mm Para., .357 SIG, .40 S&W, or .45 GAP (new 2005) cal., cold hammer forged 5 in. barrel, 9 (.45 GAP), 10, 12 (.40 S&W or .357 SIG), or 15 (9mm Para.) shot mag., lightweight polymer frame, matte black, bi-tone, or OD Green finish, steel slide, single action striker fired with U.S.A. trigger system, firing pin and loaded chamber indicators, dual recoil spring system, integral accessory rails standard on frame, ambidextrous mag. release, grip safety, front and rear slide serrations, approx. 23 oz. New 2002.

Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%

MSR $566 $485 $425 $385 $345 $300 $265 $235

Add $29 for bi-tone finish (.45 GAP cal. only, new 2005).

Add $29 for .45 ACP cal. (new 2006).

Add $89 for Trijicon or Heinie (disc.) tritium slant pro sights (N/A in .45 GAP or .45 ACP).





X-TREME DUTY (XD MODELS) - 4 IN. SERVICE

- 9mm Para., .357 SIG, .40 S&W, .45 ACP (new 2006), or .45 GAP (new 2005) cal., cold hammer forged 4 in. ported or unported barrel, 9 (.45 GAP), 10 (.45 ACP), 12 (.40 S&W or .357 SIG), or 15 (9mm Para.) shot mag., lightweight polymer frame, matte black, bi-tone (new 2003) or OD Green finish, steel slide, single action striker fired with U.S.A. trigger system, firing pin and loaded chamber indicators, dual recoil spring system, integral accessory rails standard on frame, ambidextrous mag. release, grip safety, front and rear slide serrations, approx. 23 oz. New 2002.

Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%

MSR $536 $460 $400 $350 $300 $265 $235 $200

Add $30 for V10 ported barrel (black or OD Green finish, not available in .45 ACP or .45 GAP cal.).

Add approx. $30 for bi-tone finish.

Add $90 for Trijicon or Heinie tritium slant pro night sights (9mm Para., .357 SIG or .40 S&W cal.).





X-TREME DUTY (XD MODELS) - 3 IN. SUB-COMPACT

- 9mm Para. or .40 S&W (new 2004) cal., cold hammer forged 3 in. barrel, 9 (.40 S&W) or 10 (9mm Para.) shot mag., lightweight polymer frame, bi-tone (new 2004, 9mm Para. cal. only), matte black or OD Green finish, steel slide, single action striker fired with U.S.A. trigger system, firing pin and loaded chamber indicators, dual recoil spring system, integral accessory rails standard on frame, ambidextrous mag. release, grip safety, front and rear slide serrations, 20 1/2 oz. New 2003.

Grading 100% 98% 95% 90% 80% 70% 60%

MSR $536 $460 $400 $350 $300 $265 $235 $200

Add $30 for bi-tone finish.



Add $90 for Trijicon or Heinie tritium slant pro night sights.

Add $100 for X-treme mini light.
 
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well you know even if a gun is new in the box but is registered its in 98% condish





i just posted this because its crazy! For what the retail is
 

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Who cares! Lets move on to something more productive. Why even mention that imported crap on a American Made website???
 

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TBoliv said:
This forum is private property. (I am assuming based on what i've seen that) Jester is the owner, meaning we're here because he allows us to be.




osinious said:
DONT TREAD ON MY FREEDOMS





Jester is a American he should understand that a TRUTHFUL post shouldnt be deleted



I could understand if he was from Cuba where you can be thrown in jail if someone says something truthful and then they get thrown in a jail.



I say his add on for mags isnt worth 17 dollars to myself dont get mad and delete the post




Once again, this is private property. If Jester doesnt like what you have to say, he can ask you (or force you) to leave.



From what i've seen, Jester runs this place pretty openly. He asked you nicely to drop a topic that you've brought up in a couple different places here on the forum. One of those places, you were butting into someone's for sale ad. If the guy wants to name a price (regardless of what it is), that's his right. If it's too high, it's not for you to say, it's for the market to decide. If someone will pay a "too high" price, that's not your place to say.



Anyways, if I were you, i'd get over it. If you dont like the value on the pistol, dont buy it.
 

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osinious said:
This forum is private property. (I am assuming based on what i've seen that) Jester is the owner, meaning we're here because he allows us to be.


DONT TREAD ON MY FREEDOMS





Jester is a American he should understand that a TRUTHFUL post shouldnt be deleted



I could understand if he was from Cuba where you can be thrown in jail if someone says something truthful and then they get thrown in a jail.



I say his add on for mags isnt worth 17 dollars to myself dont get mad and delete the post



I tell someone a new pistol is 400 when they want 400 for one with a few hundred rounds threw it.

GROW UP they read what i post get mad tell jester and he sends me a warning? WTF



GOTO A GUN SHOP AND SEE WHAT THEY WILL GIVE YOU FOR A USED M&P



dont be a crybaby about it the truth hurts sometimes






Relax
....just Avoid the overpriced resales and go directly to Budsgunshop
 

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Compare the costs of the M&P to its competitors and you will see it is reasonably priced.



If someone has a used gun for sale, they can decide the price...whatever it is. It is not anyone's position to **** on their thread and bash their price. Caveat emptor, they should research the gun and the prices.



And imo Jester has been very lenient on this forum in regards to moderation, but that is off topic.......
 
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