Barrels don't just blow up. What was done to them?
Or do you mean lugs shearing off or what?
Or do you mean lugs shearing off or what?
Already been sent back, you can't make money renting a broken gun. :wink:darklyte24 said:pics? digital cameras are cheaper than guns im sure you have one right... :wink:
sherpa said:That's too bad. Might have reached its life either sooner or prematurely? Hope S&W should consider this too carefully, in addition to the other issues, and correct what needs to be for future batches.
Synergy, can you post some pictures and the ammo load used? Just for reference, hoping too it doesn't happen too soon with ours. Thanks.
synergy said:I didn't take pics of it. I've seen a half dozen guns blow up in the last year or so...I don't really get too excited about it. We boxed it up and sent it back that day.
synergy said:Nope, they blew up. I watched it happen on the second incident.
Shooter checked in and loaded magazine. Took the first shot, shot hit the paper target (not squib). Took the second shot, half of the gun blew off. I came over, cleared and took the gun, made sure shooter was ok.
Barrel was cracked from just forward of the chamber all the way to the muzzle. The front half of the frame flew forward about 6', cracked where I mentioned it did.
I watched the only 2 shots that went through that gun (edit: <- on that particular range session). So, unless the barrel cracked before, and was put away with no-one noticing it....it happened while I watched it. The shooter had JUST started shooting, had a fresh target, and I watched him place both shots on the target.
sherpa said:Could be lack of full case support in the critical area over the feed ramp, some because of overpressure reloads or those with brittled brass, though the latter might not be the case since you might be using factory loads.
synergy said:.40 is a high pressure round...guns blow up. I've personally seen the aftermath on a USP .40 compact, a Kahr PM-40, a G23C, and the M&P 40. All .40's...I've yet to see a 9mm blow up.
ToddG said:1. If the brass didn't rupture and the failure occurred just forward of the chamber, my guess is a squib. I've had a squib using factory ammo in the past.
2. The SAAMI MAP for standard pressure 9x19mm and .40 S&W is the same: 35,000psi.
Can you also please send a pic for this? I'm concerned with this too as mine is a 9mmsynergy said:... The fullsize 9mm has a broken extractor pin (the little pin visable from the underside of the slide, going up through the top).
Likewise, you have a shot of how the metal surface of the mag release looks like? Could it be almost totally worn out? Would just like to see how it looks like now compared to a new one.synergy said:The compact 9mm is just now dropping its magazine on almost every shot. It ran fine for months, but now drops the mag more often than not.
synergy said:The shooter had a B-27 Center target, placed the first shot 6 inches above the X, placed the next shot about dead on when the gun blew up. It wasn't a squib.
Not that I know everything about ammo pressures, but why is it then that we don't see ".40 +P" loads on the market? The answer I have traditionally heard, is that .40 is already at a very high pressure...right or wrong, that's what I've always heard.
ToddG said:[quote name='synergy']The shooter had a B-27 Center target, placed the first shot 6 inches above the X, placed the next shot about dead on when the gun blew up. It wasn't a squib.
Not that I know everything about ammo pressures, but why is it then that we don't see ".40 +P" loads on the market? The answer I have traditionally heard, is that .40 is already at a very high pressure...right or wrong, that's what I've always heard.