[at-home-daddy]

In the same way that the Hi-Power reportedly has a heavier/rougher/worse trigger pull before its magazine-disconnect safety is removed, does the same hold true -- to *any* extent, even slightly --for the M&P?

 

[DanGTG]

Nope, and if you don't like the mag safety feature it is easily removed. And like a BHP if you give it a little attention the trigger can be really really really good.

 

[mbinky]

The mag safety has no effect on the trigger pull. It is a very clever design. It works by moving the trigger bar out of alignment with the sear. And, as stated, easily removed with no ill effect.

 

[Dan Burwell]

What they said, absolutly no effect on the trigger pull feel or anything else what-so-ever at all. I think it is the best designed mag safety ever even if it were to break or malfunction the gun will still work it would just be capable of firing without a mag.

 

[at-home-daddy]

Great news, guys -- thanks. Getting closer to finally getting a M&P, and while I'd prefer one w/out the mag disconnect, I note that the models with them are cheaper @ Bud's than the models without...don't know it's worth paying a premium for to get one w/out, unless it would have affected the trigger pull. Keep hoping Bud's will get a model that has neither the disconnect *and* the lock, but I've haven't seen that yet.

 

[mbinky]

Bud's does sell those, no IL/no MS, and at the $369 price. They just happen to be sold out of them. I just ordered an M&P40 with the mag safety/no lock, cause I didn't want to wait. If I wasn't so indecisive, I could have had the no mag safety one last week...waited too long! Oh well, I'm still happy!

 

[at-home-daddy]

Bud's does sell those, no IL/no MS, and at the $369 price. They just happen to be sold out of them.

Hm, okay, well I'll just hold off then and see if they roll in; that combo in 9mm is really what I'm after, and I don't mind waiting a bit longer. If it looks like it could be a long while, at least now I know having the disconnect safety doesn't screw up the trigger pull, so I could live w/ it.

 

[ysued]

[quote name='"at-home-daddy" Keep hoping Bud's will get a model that has neither the disconnect *and* the lock' date=' but I've haven't seen that yet.[/quote']



They do have the model with NO LOCK but with mag safety and it's in stock now!!





http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/37125



The model with not Mag safety is in stock too, but not at the $369 Price though!!



http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/38991

 

[ysued]

Hm, okay, well I'll just hold off then and see if they roll in; that combo in 9mm is really what I'm after, and I don't mind waiting a bit longer. If it looks like it could be a long while, at least now I know having the disconnect safety doesn't screw up the trigger pull, so I could live w/ it.

The Mage safety can be easily removed.



And you can have the gun now, instead of waiting.



Y

 

[at-home-daddy]

[quote="at-home-daddy" Keep hoping Bud's will get a model that has neither the disconnect *and* the lock' date=' but I've haven't seen that yet.

They do have the model with NO LOCK but with mag safety and it's in stock now!!

[/quote]

Sorry, I wasn't too clear on that -- "and" probably should have been "or"...am primarily looking for the model that doesn't have either one. So as mentioned above, I'll just wait a bit and see if one gets into Bud's inventory sometime soon.

 

[at-home-daddy]

The Mage safety can be easily removed.



And you can have the gun now, instead of waiting.



Y

Yeah, I've seen the instructions, but I'm not overly confident in my gunsmithing abilities, though I know Mr. Burwell could take of it for me were I to send it to him for a trigger job, etc. Plus I'd prefer to have it stock (w/out safeties/locks) from the factory for a number of reasons.



Having said that, it's good to know the options are there in the event that it has to come to that.

 

[ysued]

Sorry, I wasn't too clear on that -- "and" probably should have been "or"...am primarily looking for the model that doesn't have either one. So as mentioned above, I'll just wait a bit and see if one gets into Bud's inventory sometime soon.

They do have the one with neither



http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/38991



In stock!! Just not at the $369 Price



Y

 

[at-home-daddy]

I saw that one...but it does not say "NO LOCK" as their other M&P models w/out the lock state, so my assumption is that it has a lock. Do you think that's incorrect?

 

[ysued]

I saw that one...but it does not say "NO LOCK" as their other M&P models w/out the lock state, so my assumption is that it has a lock. Do you think that's incorrect?

Model 209301 Does not have a lock, and does not have a Mag safety!!



http://www.smith-wesson.com/webapp/wcs/sto...amp;isFirearm=Y

 

[at-home-daddy]

Thanks for the model-info link; sure enough, that's sure what it seems to indicate. Looks like it might be time to give Bud's a call after all...