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In the same way that the Hi-Power reportedly has a heavier/rougher/worse trigger pull before its magazine-disconnect safety is removed, does the same hold true -- to *any* extent, even slightly --for the M&P?
 

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Nope, and if you don't like the mag safety feature it is easily removed. And like a BHP if you give it a little attention the trigger can be really really really good.
 

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The mag safety has no effect on the trigger pull. It is a very clever design. It works by moving the trigger bar out of alignment with the sear. And, as stated, easily removed with no ill effect.
 

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What they said, absolutly no effect on the trigger pull feel or anything else what-so-ever at all. I think it is the best designed mag safety ever even if it were to break or malfunction the gun will still work it would just be capable of firing without a mag.
 

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Great news, guys -- thanks. Getting closer to finally getting a M&P, and while I'd prefer one w/out the mag disconnect, I note that the models with them are cheaper @ Bud's than the models without...don't know it's worth paying a premium for to get one w/out, unless it would have affected the trigger pull. Keep hoping Bud's will get a model that has neither the disconnect *and* the lock, but I've haven't seen that yet.
 

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Bud's does sell those, no IL/no MS, and at the $369 price. They just happen to be sold out of them. I just ordered an M&P40 with the mag safety/no lock, cause I didn't want to wait. If I wasn't so indecisive, I could have had the no mag safety one last week...waited too long! Oh well, I'm still happy!
 

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mbinky said:
Bud's does sell those, no IL/no MS, and at the $369 price. They just happen to be sold out of them.
Hm, okay, well I'll just hold off then and see if they roll in; that combo in 9mm is really what I'm after, and I don't mind waiting a bit longer. If it looks like it could be a long while, at least now I know having the disconnect safety doesn't screw up the trigger pull, so I could live w/ it.
 

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Hm, okay, well I'll just hold off then and see if they roll in; that combo in 9mm is really what I'm after, and I don't mind waiting a bit longer. If it looks like it could be a long while, at least now I know having the disconnect safety doesn't screw up the trigger pull, so I could live w/ it.


The Mage safety can be easily removed.



And you can have the gun now, instead of waiting.



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ysued said:
[quote="at-home-daddy" Keep hoping Bud's will get a model that has neither the disconnect *and* the lock' date=' but I've haven't seen that yet.


They do have the model with NO LOCK but with mag safety and it's in stock now!!

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Sorry, I wasn't too clear on that -- "and" probably should have been "or"...am primarily looking for the model that doesn't have either one. So as mentioned above, I'll just wait a bit and see if one gets into Bud's inventory sometime soon.
 

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ysued said:
The Mage safety can be easily removed.



And you can have the gun now, instead of waiting.



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Yeah, I've seen the instructions, but I'm not overly confident in my gunsmithing abilities, though I know Mr. Burwell could take of it for me were I to send it to him for a trigger job, etc. Plus I'd prefer to have it stock (w/out safeties/locks) from the factory for a number of reasons.



Having said that, it's good to know the options are there in the event that it has to come to that.
 

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Sorry, I wasn't too clear on that -- "and" probably should have been "or"...am primarily looking for the model that doesn't have either one. So as mentioned above, I'll just wait a bit and see if one gets into Bud's inventory sometime soon.


They do have the one with neither



http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product...oducts_id/38991



In stock!! Just not at the $369 Price



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I saw that one...but it does not say "NO LOCK" as their other M&P models w/out the lock state, so my assumption is that it has a lock. Do you think that's incorrect?
 

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Thanks for the model-info link; sure enough, that's sure what it seems to indicate. Looks like it might be time to give Bud's a call after all...
 
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