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Well, I FINALLY got out to the range with the M&P again. It is pictured in this thread:

http://mp-pistol.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2883



I took the full size 9 with the 10-8/Burwell gold bead and my compact 9 with factory white dots.



Indoor range with your standard dim lighting.



200 rounds (WWB) with one failure to extract at about the halfway point.



The gold bead was extremely easy to track, even in the reduced light. This is one of the first sights I've ever been able to track through the entire slide cycle. The flat black rear sight had no distracting dots to trick my eyes into focusing on.



All in all, MUCH better than the three white dots in this light.



Now, about that failure to extract. Halfway through a magazine I went to pull the trigger and got nothing. Noticed the slide was back even though I was nowhere near slide lock. Stopped, looked and saw the following:



The fired shell casing was half-way out of the chamber. The slide/extractor had apparently let loose of it at that point, then continued it's cycle rearward and begun to return. It then started to strip a fresh round from the magazine, wedging it under the fired brass.



The proper remedy for this would have been: 1. pull slide to the rear and lock it. 2. Dump out fired brass. 3. release slide.



HOWEVER, being the doofus that I am, I first tried to remove the magazine which was very difficult because the top round was already on it's way up the feed ramp. So I pulled down on the magazine and the feedramp cammed the round back into the magazine. Magazine came out, slide dropped forward by itself, taking the fired case back into the chamber. THEN I racked the slide, ejecting the fired case.



Don't be dumb like me...
 

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Thanks for the update on the sights, they sound awesome.



As for the FTE, that is the same sort of failure I had and several other have reported experiencing.
 

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m4arc said:
As for the FTE, that is the same sort of failure I had and several other have reported experiencing.


Thanks for the info. I haven't been reading the technical difficulties forum lately. Has this been linked to the Winchester White Box, the gun, or the combination of the two?



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Is there any possibility you might have held less than firm during that shot? The light plastic guns can have feed problems when not held solidly.



Just a thought.
 

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If you'll re-read my description, you'll see that the failure mode was failure to extract. The feeding was going pretty good until a new round ran into the partially un-extracted empty.



Whether or not "limpwristing" can cause extraction problems, I do not know. Anyone ?



I guess it's possible that limp-wristing could have been induced on my part because I was experimenting with different grips and thumb-placement. (trying to avoid hitting the slide-lock while firing)
 

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I actually set out to test this on my brand new MP40 today, I could not get it to FTE, I limpwristed it to as far as I was comfortable without risking losing control of the pistol... I know that I have caused a few FTEs in an STI Ranger shooting rapidly from my weak hand... But the MP40 doesn't seem to have this problem.
 
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