I picked up my new .40 M&Pc with gunshop-installed Trijicon night sights today, took it home, cleaned it, and took it to the range for an initial run through. I was really pressed for time and had to shoot pretty fast. On the first few shots (165 gr. WWB - it was all I had) as I pulled the trigger I thought, "Yikes this trigger pull is GRITTY, I've never felt anything like this - yuck!" But then I looked at target and thought, "hmm, that's not to bad and where did the recoil go: it feels like a 9mm." Then I shot more and thought, "either the trigger is smoothing out, or I'm just not caring because I'm shooting this new gun accurately and feeling no recoil." This is the first time I've ever shot an M&P and I'm very pleased with and impressed by how accurate and soft recoiling this .40 M&Pc is! I have two other guns with very similar dimensions: a .40 H&K P2000 SK (which I just got last week) and a .40 subcompact glock G27 (which I've shot a lot with and currently CCW) and, though it's too early to say, I've a feeling the M&P just might surpass the other two (I'm a glocker and that was hard to say.) I just kind of fell out of shooting for a while and have only recently started back, but I've some nice guns to shoot and things are looking good.
New .40 M&Pc owner very pleased.
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I had similar thoughts all the way around. I took the gun and sat in front of the TV, after triple checking it was unloaded and no ammo or mags near me, and dry fired it 500 times. No joke!! The trigger is way way way smoother now!! Plus it helps with trigger control!!
Glad to here you've come away from the dark side! lol
I've always been a Walthers fan for sub .45 but the M&Pc is now my #1 ccw. Glocks are an extremely reliable quality piece of equipment, but they have always felt like just that, a piece of equipment. The M&P feels like an extension of myself.
Congrats!
PS: If you like the trigger now,try the trigger job posted by Dan Burwell. It will knock your socks off! Its not difficult and you can do it in stages to get where you want to be with pull and reset.
Just my $.02
Iwish I could link it here but I'm not that familiar with all the IT tools here yet.
I figured it out, Here's the link:
http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm
I've always been a Walthers fan for sub .45 but the M&Pc is now my #1 ccw. Glocks are an extremely reliable quality piece of equipment, but they have always felt like just that, a piece of equipment. The M&P feels like an extension of myself.
Congrats!
PS: If you like the trigger now,try the trigger job posted by Dan Burwell. It will knock your socks off! Its not difficult and you can do it in stages to get where you want to be with pull and reset.
Just my $.02
Iwish I could link it here but I'm not that familiar with all the IT tools here yet.
I figured it out, Here's the link:
http://www.burwellgunsmithing.com/M&Ptriggerjob1.htm
Well, I wouldn't say I'm going to leave the dark side and 'abandon' my glocks, but it was kind of scary how well I liked and shot the M&P. Also, it feels really good in my hand. I showed it to my brother-in-law yesterday who likes 1911's and is not really keen on glocks and said/shouted, "Yeah, yeah - I like how this feels. This feels good. Yeah!" Thanks, for the pointer to the trigger job by Dan Burwell, but I think all the gun and I will need is additional shooting and I'm already impressed with how accurate the gun is right now. Now, there's a nice sticky on how to lighten an LEM trigger on an H&K P2000 on the H&K forum, and I'm definitely going to do that on my recently purchased P2000 SK, since that trigger pull is too heavy compared to my M&P, glocks, or Sig DAK. But, I was really impressed by the M&Pc, and may need to muster the discipline to keep from purchasing another M&P real soon, and the bad news is S&W is coming to my local gun shop next week(talk about bad timing!)
LOL
It's taking every ounce of willpower I have not to go get a 9c for the free mag premium!
Enjoy and welcome again.
By the way, check this out:
http://mp-pistol.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=4886
(shameless self promotion!)
luvmy40 said:
I already knew what was going to happen, and why postpone the inevitable says I, so I called my gun shop and left word for the gunsmith to slap break out another set of night sights and put them on a 9c (haven't heard back yet if it's ready yet). luvmy40, you're a better man than me. Hang tough, bro.
Also, good work on the mag sleeves.
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New 40c, shoots low
I finally got to shoot my new 40c. I really like the way it feels and shoots. The only issue I had was that I tended to shoot a bit low. I shot my model 19 .357 and it is dead on, I shot my .38 M&P (~60 years old) revolver and it was dead on, too. I finally shot my friend's Glock and it was dead on. I shot my 40c again and it is low. Anybody else have this situation? Maybe I just need to learn to aim a little differently.
The funny thing was when I was shooting at a target at about 15 yards I aimed with the bullseye balanced on the top of the front sight. The bullets were hitting right at the bottom of the bullseye. I'm used to aiming with the bullseye balanced on the top of the front sight. Is the trajectory of the compacts lower at 15 yards than a .357 4" barrel?
I finally got to shoot my new 40c. I really like the way it feels and shoots. The only issue I had was that I tended to shoot a bit low. I shot my model 19 .357 and it is dead on, I shot my .38 M&P (~60 years old) revolver and it was dead on, too. I finally shot my friend's Glock and it was dead on. I shot my 40c again and it is low. Anybody else have this situation? Maybe I just need to learn to aim a little differently.
The funny thing was when I was shooting at a target at about 15 yards I aimed with the bullseye balanced on the top of the front sight. The bullets were hitting right at the bottom of the bullseye. I'm used to aiming with the bullseye balanced on the top of the front sight. Is the trajectory of the compacts lower at 15 yards than a .357 4" barrel?
I noticed tis at first also, but I was not used to 3dot sights. I blacked out my back sights and my POC came up. That being said, I have noticed that the higher velocity Federal EFMJ 135gr. ammo shoots a little low at close range (3-10 yards) haven't done any long shooting with it yet.
Mine didn't shoot low, but when I shoot I place the front dot (I've Trijicon night sights on mine) over the spot at which I'm aiming and, when I'm concentrating, the bullets tend to go pretty much where I want them (I'm not the greatest shot). If I were using your "pumpkin on a post" sight picture I believe my shots would fall low, too. It sounds like you're a pretty good shot if you're consistenttly hitting right at the bottom of the bullseye, so you might want to try covering the bullseye with the front sight and see what happens. Regarding the trajectory, at 15 yards I don't think there'd be too much drop with a 3.5" (including the chamber).40 at any bullet weight, but a 4" (measured from the barrel forward) .357 Magnum will have a flatter trajectory. Try covering your target with the sight and see if that helps.
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Thanks guys. I did get to shoot the gun at some metal targets, the ones that knock down when hit, and I found if I put the front dot in the middle of the target I could knock them down consistently. I have to get back to the range and get to know my weapon better. However, at close range I don't think two inches difference would have much of a different result in a self-defense situation -- especially if two more holes were made after the first one!
Jefs said:
Yep, the M&P has in fact surpassed the other two - I love it when I'm right
This gun is very accurate and easy to shoot well, has been 100% reliable, and handles the recoil to the point where it's a nonissue. I'm looking forward to getting an M&P9c once my gun shop gets some night sights in (I've been waiting quite some time.) I wonder if other folks are having difficulty getting night sights for the compacts.
I'm very pleased with mine also. I was surprised how fast I was able to "double tap" and hit very close to the same area. IMHO there is no recoil with this firearm, as a matter of fact my wife has threatened to take it away from me.
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Like my MP40c More Every Day!
I took the 40c out when I was camping last weekend and shot 20 rounds at a paper target. I have figured out how to aim such as someone said earlier -- put the dot right where I want the hole to be -- and that's exactly what happens. At 10 yards 17 rounds were tightly in the black. One was above the black ( I pulled the trigger as the gun was coming down from recoil -- almost a double-tap but not quite). The other two went below the black and were due to anticipating the shot. I'm still not as smooth with the new gun. It's my first semi-auto. All my other guns are revolvers. Needless to say, I am extremely pleased with the 40c in all respects! It's shot 100% so far with no problems except the one time I was practicing close encounter firing and didn't hold the gun angled enough away from my chest and the slide nailed my chest and didn't extract the casing completely -- I had a nice bruise on my left man-boob
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I took the 40c out when I was camping last weekend and shot 20 rounds at a paper target. I have figured out how to aim such as someone said earlier -- put the dot right where I want the hole to be -- and that's exactly what happens. At 10 yards 17 rounds were tightly in the black. One was above the black ( I pulled the trigger as the gun was coming down from recoil -- almost a double-tap but not quite). The other two went below the black and were due to anticipating the shot. I'm still not as smooth with the new gun. It's my first semi-auto. All my other guns are revolvers. Needless to say, I am extremely pleased with the 40c in all respects! It's shot 100% so far with no problems except the one time I was practicing close encounter firing and didn't hold the gun angled enough away from my chest and the slide nailed my chest and didn't extract the casing completely -- I had a nice bruise on my left man-boob
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