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My M&P I am picking up was made in 6/2006 and I think will have the older slide release, not the extended. Is that bad? Do I need the new one?
 

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personal preference on the slide release, or slide stop. If you like using a slide release you should get one, but if you dont mind pulling the slide back to load then you should have no problems. I dont mind the slide stop.
 

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Well it was bad terminolgy. I use it as a slide stop.



How do the extended ones look? Just got mine. Has a little 'hump' at the top of the slide stop.
 

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If I were you I would get the one with the new ext slide RELEASE. I use them as a release, pulling back the slide to me is old school. Put in a mag hit slide release and slam the slide home ready to go! My dealer has the ones with the ext slide release.
 

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He describes it as that he HAS the newer style.
 

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If I were you I would get the one with the new ext slide RELEASE. I use them as a release, pulling back the slide to me is old school. Put in a mag hit slide release and slam the slide home ready to go! My dealer has the ones with the ext slide release.


Well it seems I have it. I dont chamber a gun by using the slide stop normally. I guess I would if I had to where my other hand was not free or able for some reason. I prefer to 'slingshot' the slide. Just how I was taught to do years back when shooting 1911s and it has stuck.
 

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Trying to figure out which one I have as well. My slide stop/release has a small hump at the top. Are the slide stops completely flat? Its still real hard to release the slide. I'm a lefty and the slide release on the right side of the gun is more difficult to release than the left side. I know they are connected, but I think with the left side you get direct pressure downward right by the catch, on the right side it has to travel across the gun allowing for some flex in the metal. I thought it was nice being a lefty having a release, but I think I'll just slingshot it when I have to. I polished the catch area and it made it MUCH easier but its still pretty stiff....BUT now it will CONSISTANTLY drop the slide when I slam a magazine in (with less pressure than before and it doesn't matter if the slide is locked back from last round fired or by hand) which pretty much eliminates my need for a slide release or slingshotting! PERFECT for IDPA. I just need to practice how hard to slam the magazine in. If you try this, be careful changing the angle of the catch so much that it won't lock the slide back! You'll ruin your gun or at the least your release. Start off with a polish, check and recheck. I ended up changing the angle very slightly on the catch and on the frame. It still locks open solid. I did the same thing on my 1911 years ago and never had a problem with it.
 

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Yes, the original slide stops are completely flat (which is just fine with me). If yours has any rise or shape to it, it's one of the new ones.
 

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cool...my gun was still really hard to drop the slide even with the extended release, can't imagine with the flat one. Being a lefty I've always been used to slingshotting anyways.
 

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One of my .40s doesn't have the extended slide stop. I think I will be installing a extended stop on it. On a fast mag change it takes me two hands to drop the slide. One to hold the pistol and the other to work the stop.
 
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Sigkim said:
If I were you I would get the one with the new ext slide RELEASE. I use them as a release, pulling back the slide to me is old school. Put in a mag hit slide release and slam the slide home ready to go! My dealer has the ones with the ext slide release.


At the range when your stress level is low it works ok. However using the slide stop as a slide release requires the use of fine motor skills to find and release the lever. Also if the recoil/mag springs are strong it can take a good deal of pressure to activate the release.



When in a high stress situation (someone shooting back is a good way to send your stress thought the roof) the first thing to go is the fine motor skills. The slide is a large, easily found object. Grab the top of the slide and pull toward you while pushing away with the strong hand on the way to assuming the firing position takes less time with less chance of missing the relativly small contact area of the slide stop.



And pulling the slide back instead of using the slide stop as a release does save wear on the slide stop. Wear that could over time contribute to the slide not locking open reliably.



My $.02, take it for what it is worth.



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[quote name='Sigkim']If I were you I would get the one with the new ext slide RELEASE. I use them as a release, pulling back the slide to me is old school. Put in a mag hit slide release and slam the slide home ready to go! My dealer has the ones with the ext slide release.


At the range when your stress level is low it works ok. However using the slide stop as a slide release requires the use of fine motor skills to find and release the lever. Also if the recoil/mag springs are strong it can take a good deal of pressure to activate the release.



When in a high stress situation (someone shooting back is a good way to send your stress thought the roof) the first thing to go is the fine motor skills. The slide is a large, easily found object. Grab the top of the slide and pull toward you while pushing away with the strong hand on the way to assuming the firing position takes less time with less chance of missing the relativly small contact area of the slide stop.



And pulling the slide back instead of using the slide stop as a release does save wear on the slide stop. Wear that could over time contribute to the slide not locking open reliably.



My $.02, take it for what it is worth.



Jerry[/quote]



Am I missing something here? When you fire your last shot the slide locks back and the slide release has to be employed to drop the slide. I don't have a problem chambering the first round by racking the slide but you got to use it on mag changes. :?:
 

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your not racking the slide, your dropping the slide the "right way".Using the slide stop as a release is the new age way.



Insert the mag with the slide back, pull on the slide and let it go, the slide stop will drop allowing the slide to move forward.



In a perfect world you'd do a mag change with one in the pipe and not need the other options.
 

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your not racking the slide, your dropping the slide the "right way".Using the slide stop as a release is the new age way.



Insert the mag with the slide back, pull on the slide and let it go, the slide stop will drop allowing the slide to move forward.



In a perfect world you'd do a mag change with one in the pipe and not need the other options.


If this isn't proof that your learn something every day and die ignorant I don't know what is. I have been shooting for 40 years and got my first pistol (5906) in 1993. In all my time at the range shooting and watching others shoot I never saw anyone do a mag change W/O using the slide stop. I understood what you said but was still amazed when I tried it and it worked. Don't need the slide stop any more to drop the slide. Thanks Jester. Now you can see why I was so confused.
 

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If this isn't proof that your learn something every day and die ignorant I don't know what is.
I didn’t know it either until I called Smith & Wesson because of all the posts that the “Slide Stop” was not a “Slide Release”. They told me that it was fine to use it as a slide release. After we discussed the “Slide Release” and “Sling shot” he said “You know you don’t have to do either of those don’t you?”



He went on to explain that after LRF; just slap another mag in and the slide will drop and you are ready to go.



I haven’t called back to get an answer on this yet, but I think what may be confusing some people is that mine will absolutely only do that after LFR. If I pull the slide back manually; I don’t care how hard you slam a mag in the slide won’t drop. But it does it every time after LRF. I don’t know if it’s supposed to be that way or not; but mine is.
 

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ToolMaker: I makes me feel a little better that I am not the only one in the shooting world that didn't know that.
 
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