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Just wondering if anyone has seen or head of backstraps with OD Green? I am thinking about contacting Dan to see what he thinks. Just wanted to see if anyone has seen or heard of anyone doing it????
 

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I have OD green back straps. My duty gun wears a medium one. I will try to get a picture posted. I plan to offer them soon.

It looks really good.

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Here's the picture of my duty pistol with stippled OD green backstrap.





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your MP looks sick brother, well that answeres my question.......Let me know when you get the shipment in.



How easy is it to finish the slide OD Green? My buddy is a gunsmith, he might get butt hurt if I do it myself, but I want to do erverything myself on my MP.....lol



Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Is it jujst me or are laptop keyboards the hardest tp type on????....lol
 

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The rear sight is a modified factory sight.

As for the slide refinishing it is not all that difficult but the entire slide should be taken apart to be done right including the extractor. There are various companies that make coatings that can be used. Also you must make sure there are no contaminates on the slide. I oxide blast all of mine prior to coating after complete disassembly.

And yes lap tops are a pain to type on. The keys are too close.



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Bowie Tactical said:
The rear sight is a modified factory sight.

As for the slide refinishing it is not all that difficult but the entire slide should be taken apart to be done right including the extractor. There are various companies that make coatings that can be used. Also you must make sure there are no contaminates on the slide. I oxide blast all of mine prior to coating after complete disassembly.

And yes lap tops are a pain to type on. The keys are too close.



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Very nice my freind. And thanks for the insight!! I just stripped mine last night and was amazed how quickly it breaks down, and slaps back together. Just awesome.....15 seconds.....lol Probably quicker after I get the hang of it.



Thanks again for the info Bowie, cool site you have by the way! Let me know when your shipment comes in!!!!



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I hope to be getting some inserts ready this coming week. I will start with about 4 or 5 medium inserts to see the demand.



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I hope to be getting some inserts ready this coming week. I will start with about 4 or 5 medium inserts to see the demand.



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If you dont mind me asking, what is the process for sharking out the backstraps? It looks awesome, but seems to me common sense could drag me through it??? If I am wrong please correct me. I just think what you have done to yours is just freakin awesome, and if it is something I can do myself I would give it a try!!!



If not guess I know where my next paycheck is going....lol



Thanks again for posting.



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Cleaned the pic up a bit and removed the beaver tail. Looks pretty sweet. I might go with that exact setup less the stippling. That looks like a 9mm, Thought you LEO boys were in love with the .40 cal.






 

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Dave,



I notice the cutouts you have at the magwell opening. I take it these are to assist in stripping the mag in the vent of a double feed? I have been struck at how the M&P mags forcefully eject under all conditions a' la 1911 when the mag catch is hit. My Glock mags are positively obstinate by comparison.



While we're on the subject - sort - any thoughts on reworking the full-size baseplate? I can just see that big honkin' lip breaking off when a mostly loaded mag hits a concrete deck. The Glock mags, by comparison, are nearly indestructible. Thoughts?
 

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I'll try to get a couple things answered here. First the sharking is a Dan Burwell term when he started his version of my stippling.

The mag well cut outs are one of my now much copied designs from many years ago. They are for just what was said above. Stripping stuck mags. I and the TDI staff teach to rip mags all the time. It is one of the things that is a sure thing that way. So no matter if a glove, lower palm, your not vertical or anything else gets in the way, you know the mag is coming out even for a plain old mag change. If done right it adds no real time.

As for the .40 no love here. It is caliber that punishes the gun more, costs more to shoot. recoils more and gives no real performance advantage. I have been involved with studies on this and kept track of this for many years. And it still comes down to caliber does not matter any amount when you are comparing real fighting calibers. Many who shoot the 40 could not handle it well at all if they were injured or exhausted. I'll keep my 9mm or 45acp. They run forever without punishing guns or shooters. If you like it and can shoot it well that's great. But i have never seen anyone yet who did not shoot a 9mm better. And better is ...well... better.



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Bowie Tactical said:
I'll try to get a couple things answered here. First the sharking is a Dan Burwell term when he started his version of my stippling.

The mag well cut outs are one of my now much copied designs from many years ago. They are for just what was said above. Stripping stuck mags. I and the TDI staff teach to rip mags all the time. It is one of the things that is a sure thing that way. So no matter if a glove, lower palm, your not vertical or anything else gets in the way, you know the mag is coming out even for a plain old mag change. If done right it adds no real time.

As for the .40 no love here. It is caliber that punishes the gun more, costs more to shoot. recoils more and gives no real performance advantage. I have been involved with studies on this and kept track of this for many years. And it still comes down to caliber does not matter any amount when you are comparing real fighting calibers. Many who shoot the 40 could not handle it well at all if they were injured or exhausted. I'll keep my 9mm or 45acp. They run forever without punishing guns or shooters. If you like it and can shoot it well that's great. But i have never seen anyone yet who did not shoot a 9mm better. And better is ...well... better.



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what .45 do you use?
 

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Bowie Tactical said:
First the sharking is a Dan Burwell term when he started his version of my stippling.


Well not quite it is my polymer version of a stippling technique used for many years on steel guns. Novak and Yost have been doing it for a lot longer than you or I just in steel. I have always loved the look the sharkskin stippling as opposed to the more traditional stippling it just looks more pleasing to my eye. The exact same technique is used but has to applied to a little deeper then when done on steel. I used the same name "sharkskin" just so that people would know where it came from.



Anytime you think you are doing something new or unique on a gun you just need to look back in history a bit is has likely already been done.
 

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Dan Burwell said:
[quote name='Bowie Tactical']First the sharking is a Dan Burwell term when he started his version of my stippling.


Well not quite it is my polymer version of a stippling technique used for many years on steel guns. Novak and Yost have been doing it for a lot longer than you or I just in steel. I have always loved the look the sharkskin stippling as opposed to the more traditional stippling it just looks more pleasing to my eye. The exact same technique is used but has to applied to a little deeper then when done on steel. I used the same name "sharkskin" just so that people would know where it came from.



Anytime you think you are doing something new or unique on a gun you just need to look back in history a bit is has likely already been done.[/quote]



Hey Dan.......How easy is the stippling done? Are there steps needed to follow to assure its being done right? Let me guess....hmmmmm Yesssss....lol



You can PM me if you want.



Thanks Dan!
 

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Hey Dan.......How easy is the stippling done? Are there steps needed to follow to assure its being done right? Let me guess....hmmmmm Yesssss[/quote]



It is very easy to do. just need a soldering pencil and a little courage. Just keep in mind replacement back straps are $3 replacement frames $$$$, choose wisely what you experiment on :wink:



Shaping the tip of the soldering pencil will change the pattern, so play around with it a bit and see what you come up with.



Keep you finger on the back side of the grip so you can feel how hot you are getting the plastic you don't want it to get too hot over a large area and have it warp.
 

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Dan Burwell said:
Hey Dan.......How easy is the stippling done? Are there steps needed to follow to assure its being done right? Let me guess....hmmmmm Yesssss


It is very easy to do. just need a soldering pencil and a little courage. Just keep in mind replacement back straps are $3 replacement frames $$$$, choose wisely what you experiment on :wink:



Shaping the tip of the soldering pencil will change the pattern, so play around with it a bit and see what you come up with.



Keep you finger on the back side of the grip so you can feel how hot you are getting the plastic you don't want it to get too hot over a large area and have it warp.[/quote]



Excellent advice Dan! Will practice numerous times before getting the courage to do the frame, but will start with the backstraps....lol



Thanks Dan
 
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