[leadfoot]

Being a Canadian I am just curious what all members from the US think are the 5 toughest states to buy/carry/own a gun and what are the 5 easiest states to buy/carry/own a gun? Also any quick summaries would be good. I know Arizona is fairly lax and Illinois and NY are tough......Opinions and facts please

I have seen many magazine articles on CCW but what are the real world opinions..... TIA

 

[ClosetCaseNerd]

Under the "toughest" would be:

NJ, because they limit CCW permit issue, there are no long range rifle ranges, you can only use FMJ ammunition, they have a maximum magazine capacity law in effect...

CA, For much the same reasons as NJ

NY, because you can not get a CCW permit issued....



Under the easiest would be AZ, UT, VT and possibly PA when you exclude Philadelphia... ( :? ) Arizona you dont even have to register your firearms and allows open carry, VT doesnt require a permit for concealed carry, UT allows concealed carry on its campuses, and PA allows open carry.



I personally hope NJ and CA fall off into the ocean. I have many friends from NJ but I have already informed them they are acceptable collateral damage in the case of losing an asinine section of the country. I can always make more friends, but as Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid"

....God I hate NJ....

 

[alowerlevel]

Under the "toughest" would be:

NJ, because they limit CCW permit issue, there are no long range rifle ranges, you can only use FMJ ammunition, they have a maximum magazine capacity law in effect...











....God I hate NJ....

Yeah Jersey sucks for gun owners, but Im stuck here for now

 

[LockNLoad]

Hey hey hey...weapons down...weapons down

Jersey gun laws definitely suck...but we can carry...we can carry our weapons in the trunk of our vehicles on our way to/from the range unloaded with the ammo in a separate location from the gun.



But before we fall off the map, can I get a warning so I can move to Philly...LOL



In Order:

MA

NJ

NY (NYC city with the highest ordinances)

CA

MD

 

[leadfoot]

We can't even call them weapons....they're firearms. PC bullshit!

 

[LockNLoad]

Leadfoot, don't sweat it...in a Heavy Gun Controlled state, they have a way of making you feel your gun is a weapon...



As you can tell by my post...I'm still suffering the psychological affects of my address. Most people on the board probably would have probably said "holster your guns...holster your gun"



:roll:

 

[alowerlevel]

Jersey gun laws definitely suck...but we can carry...we can carry our weapons in the trunk of our vehicles on our way to/from the range unloaded with the ammo in a separate location from the gun.

Yeah I love all Jerseys great gun control laws :roll: , especially living less than 1 mile from Camden (aka "The most dangerous city in the US in '04 & '05) makes feel safe knowing that I cant carry but the criminals can

 

[m4arc]

Easiest:

Vermont

Florida

Texas

Alaska

Virginia

Arizona



Hardest:

New York

New Jersey

California

Massachusetts

Maryland

 

[raz-0]

Hardest to purchase?



Probably CA then MA then NJ and MD and then NY with the exception of NYC which is probably the worst period. Then you have all the screwed up non-uniform laws in IL.



Most restricted on what you can own?

CA, HI, NY, NJ, MD, CT in about that order. Probably missing something out west like IL, but I think it is mostly municipality bans.



Hardest to get a carry permit.



IL, WI (both have no issue), then NJ which is damn near no issue.

 

[LockNLoad]

Interesting fact about NYC, a friend of mine wanted to get their purchase permit. NYC firearm law allows the City 6 months to process your application. So you could apply in January and worst case you'll get a response by June.

 

[ledge]

Maine is firearms friendly. Open carry is legal, Concealed is shall issue. No bullsh|t waiting periods. I'm happy to say that the Brady Campaign gives us a D-. Maybe next year we can work towards that F.

 

[38-55]

Just to clarify, you can get a CCW permit in New York State, although they are getting harder to get. You cannot carry in New York city or any of it's bouroughs. New York State requires a permit to own a pistol, but the local county judge decides if you need a CCW. This is a fairly new change here in Saint Lawrence county; they always used to issue a CCW but lately do not unless you can prove the need. I have had my permit for thirty years so I was 'grandfathered' the CCW. You can still get a permit to purchase and possess for hunting and target shooting, but must prove the need to carry concealed.



10 round mags only please

 

[tjq]

I hold a CCW in MI and had one in FL. Both are fairly easy to obtain. MI has restrictions to only issue to residents with six months in state. FL allows a non resident CCW. Where it really gets strange is that MI and FL have reciprocity on CCW. However, FL will issue a drivers license for a part time resident from another state, as long as you own a vacation or retirement property in the state. Having said that....



You can carry in FL with a FL license and an MI CCW

You can carry in FL with a MI license and a FL CCW

You can carry in FL with a MI license and a MI CCW

MI citizens CANNOT carry in MI with anything less than a MI license and MI CCW

FL citizens can carry with a FL license and FL CCW in MI



Confusing?

 

[ClosetCaseNerd]

I am originally from NJ...born in NYC. You can not fathom my disdain for that state. It is the most over legislated state in existence. The municipalities hand out tickets without any form of discretion because municipal court is a money making scheme for the townships. The taxes are extremely high so there is an police officer/capita ratio severely out of whack. Lots of cops milling around rich communities with little crime is never a good thing.



I like to rock climb, ride motocross, love to ski, I enjoy firearms and the outdoors... NJ is a flat slab of earth that starts out as sod in the north and slowly fades to sand as you move south into the pine barrens. It is inhabited by sheeple who have only one thing: beach culture. There is more masculinity in San Fransisco. 90lb 16 year old boys with hair fit for a Pantene Pro-V commercial and their jeans so tight they look spray painted on, carrying their surf boards.



The Jersey shore.... there is a winner. Pick your way through a crowd so thick it rivals rock concerts, and find a 3ftx5ft parcel of scorching sand 200 yards from the water, go for a swim, grow a tail...



RAWR!

 

[ClosetCaseNerd]

Oh, no offense to you New Jerseyites... just the fact that your on a gun forum means that you have retained what little masculinity NJ hasn't lopped off in public school.













I escaped, but just barely. Soon as I am done with college I am fleeing west or north. Even VT might be a bit too surrounded by yuppie latte drinkers who care so much about others not doing things they are interested in so it must invariably be legislated out...







Wow...you guys don't charge by the hour to let me rant like this do you? :?

 

[alowerlevel]

I agree with pretty much everything you just said, thats why I hate going to the shore, and absolutely detest going to the mall.



While we are ranting about Jersey, whats with online stores not wanting to sell mags holding over 10 rounds to us???? The law limits us to 15 rounds now, its not 10 anymore (even at mp-store.com they wont sell the 15 rd M&P40 mags to Jersey. WTF???)

 

[rjhauser]

proximity to NYC. :?

 

[nickdrak]

I think you guys are overlooking Illinois as one of the worst. Atleast there is such a thing as concealed carry in the other states. Never will be here in IL. and there are several new restrictions on the horizon in IL. In Chicago you cannot even own or possess a handgun in your own house.



I would say Cook County Illinois is in the top three if not the worst, most restrictive place to live for law abiding gun owners.



If our newly RE-elected gov. has his way, LMT, Rock River Arms, Armalite, Springfield Armory, and DSA Arms will be forced to re-locate out of state.

 

[ClosetCaseNerd]

If our newly RE-elected gov. has his way, LMT, Rock River Arms, Armalite, Springfield Armory, and DSA Arms will be forced to re-locate out of state.

Wow, now that's silly. I am sure they bring quite a bit of business to the states economy.

 

[YukonGlocker]

They have all looked at sites in Oklahoma.

Oklahoma is very gun friendly; and OK is extremely friendly to gun manufacturers.