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An interesting scenario today. I went to my usual outdoor range and at the pistol range, there was one guy teaching another. They had large white paper (about 10x14?) on the target board (range-10ft), one for each, and each had a compact Glock 9mm.



I can only speculate that this was a non-professional instructor... I didn't ask. Both of them were all over the place on the paper. They were practicing fast sight aquisition and double-taps some times, but few of their medium-speed shots were within five inches of one-another. They were also practicing the hunched Iso stance.



I chose to shoot the longer range adjacent to the 10ft range, as I didn't want to interupt their lesson. I really didn't do well with either pistol at 25yds, but at least my 40 I had on paper at that range.

Finally, after using up most of my 40cal ammo, and 20 rounds off the M44 (did much better), I decided to get to know them. I asked if I could join in on the far right of the line. They accepted and I posted my IDPA target.

My first 20 rounds(minus two impatient strays) went into a 4" group dead center. I'm fighting a trigger jerk as it breaks, as well as not taking time to line up sights on quick follow-ups. What can i say, I'm an excitable shooter.



Guy one: "That's pretty good." (not being sarcastic)

Me: "Eeh....I'm self taught. There's a few things I'm still working on."

I reloaded the mags and put both into the target head in one-per-second shots. Once I get a few rounds on target, I settle down and start making them count.

On I went to finish off the 150 rounds I brought with me. My last mag of ten went centered on the -3 of the target's left arm. 2.5" group in shot/second fire.

They gave me their 9mm brass and were still practicing when I left.



Did I do wrong? Do instructors sometimes throw the game to avoid making newbs feel bad? Or did I likely set a (admittedly weak) standard to which those guys could shoot for?
 

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If a bad guy is shooting at me poorly I do not plan to return the favor. Therefore I don't purposely practice bad shooting for any reason.



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Shooting badly is something I'd just as soon not rehearse. I seldom shoot at public ranges; mostly in my back .40 alone or with some folks I know. On the rare occasions I shoot with strangers, I never offer critique or assistance unless asked. And in those cases I tend to be circumspect.
 

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When I go to our club's range or anyother,and see someone having trouble,

I ask if they might want some help. I shoot the best I can all the time. I found that

most handgun shooters will be glad you offered, if done correctly.

Good luck
 

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I recently went to the range with a friend, to site in his new deer rifle.



Once that was sighted in... we walked over to the pistol range and shot about 200 rounds.



He had shot pistol only once or twice before... but i and he noticed that all of his shots were really low.



so i gave him a little advice....



loosened grip, locked right arm...nice easy squeeze of the trigger, and his shots straightened right up.



I try to help if they want the advice, if not, then so be it.
 

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If I didn't show up with them, I don't worry about how they feel about my shooting unles issues of safety affect both of us.



If I've taken someone to the range to introduce them to shooting, these days I largely avoid shooting myself in that case. I'm not going to practice shooting poorly, and I want to avoid intimidating them or generating any appearance of it being competitive. It's rare a newbie can completely leave their ego at home, and I don't want to step all over it right out the gate.



Later on, especially if I hear a lot of "i can't do that" or "you can't do that" I'll show them that it can indeed be done. When new, I usually limit it to demonstrrating that the equipment is not the limiting factor with regard to accuracy.
 

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BonoVox said:
If you are shooting double taps and getting them within 5 inches of each other you are not shooting fast enough IMO.


Not so. You just haven't practiced enough to get them within 2 inches of each other.



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TOF said:
[quote name='BonoVox']If you are shooting double taps and getting them within 5 inches of each other you are not shooting fast enough IMO.


Not so. You just haven't practiced enough to get them within 2 inches of each other.



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faster faster faster!!! :twisted:
 
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