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So much for the First Law of Robotics.



Fortunately, Sarah Conner was not injured...



http://blog.wired.com/defense/2007/10/robot-cannon-ki.html



Robot Cannon Kills 9, Wounds 14

By Noah Shachtman October 18, 2007 | 11:00:00 AMCategories: Ammo And Munitions, Drones, Guns

We're not used to thinking of them this way. But many advanced military weapons are essentially robotic -- picking targets out automatically, slewing into position, and waiting only for a human to pull the trigger. Most of the time. Once in a while, though, these machines start firing mysteriously on their own. The South African National Defence Force "is probing whether a software glitch led to an antiaircraft cannon malfunction that killed nine soldiers and seriously injured 14 others during a shooting exercise on Friday."

SA National Defence Force spokesman brigadier general Kwena Mangope says the cause of the malfunction is not yet known...

Media reports say the shooting exercise, using live ammunition, took place at the SA Army's Combat Training Centre, at Lohatlha, in the Northern Cape, as part of an annual force preparation endeavour.

Mangope told The Star that it “is assumed that there was a mechanical problem, which led to the accident. The gun, which was fully loaded, did not fire as it normally should have," he said. "It appears as though the gun, which is computerised, jammed before there was some sort of explosion, and then it opened fire uncontrollably, killing and injuring the soldiers." [More details here -- ed.]

Other reports have suggested a computer error might have been to blame. Defence pundit Helmoed-Römer Heitman told the Weekend Argus that if “the cause lay in computer error, the reason for the tragedy might never be found."

The anti-aircraft weapon, an Oerlikon GDF-005, is designed to use passive and active radar, as well as laser target designators range finders, to lock on to "high-speed, low-flying aircraft, helicopters, unmanned aerial vehicles (UAV) and cruise missiles." In "automatic mode," the weapon feeds targeting data from the fire control unit straight to the pair of 35mm guns, and reloads on its own when its emptied its magazine.

Electronics engineer and defence company CEO Richard Young says he can't believe the incident was purely a mechanical fault. He says his company, C2I2, in the mid 1990s, was involved in two air defence artillery upgrade programmes, dubbed Projects Catchy and Dart.



During the shooting trials at Armscor's Alkantpan shooting range, “I personally saw a gun go out of control several times,” Young says. “They made a temporary rig consisting of two steel poles on each side of the weapon, with a rope in between to keep the weapon from swinging. The weapon eventually knocked the pol[e]s down.”

According to The Star, "a female artillery officer risked her life... in a desperate bid " to save members of her battery from the gun."

But the brave, as yet unnamed officer was unable to stop the wildly swinging computerised Swiss/German Oerlikon 35mm MK5 anti-aircraft twin-barrelled gun. It sprayed hundreds of high-explosive 0,5kg 35mm cannon shells around the five-gun firing position.

By the time the gun had emptied its twin 250-round auto-loader magazines, nine soldiers were dead and 11 injured.
 

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I was at an NDIA demonstration last year and the SWORDS, which was armed and loaded with a .308 machine gun, decided to go awry.







After moving a few feet downrange, the robot turned 270-degrees and swept the entire crowd (about 150 people). Lucky me, I was in the front row. Afterwards, the company representative told us not to worry about it since "there's no way it can fire unless the controller presses the red button on the remote control."



To which I replied, "I bet there's no way it can turn 270-degrees unless the controller pushes on the joystick, too, right?"
 

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ToddG said:
To which I replied, "I bet there's no way it can turn 270-degrees unless the controller pushes on the joystick, too, right?"


LMAO.
I'm glad everthing turned out OK.
 

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The South African National Defence Force "is probing whether a software glitch led to an antiaircraft cannon malfunction


as a programmer, let me just say....YIKES
I'm glad I'm not that guy!



my favorite line from the movie office space: "Ok! Ok! I must have, I must have put a decimal point in the wrong place or something. Sh!t. I always do that. I always mess up some mundane

detail."
 

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ToddG said:
After moving a few feet downrange, the robot turned 270-degrees and swept the entire crowd (about 150 people). Lucky me, I was in the front row. Afterwards, the company representative told us not to worry about it since "there's no way it can fire unless the controller presses the red button on the remote control."


I love how people who make/design/promote/etc. the latest greatest remote killing machine for the military always act like it can't malfunction. Yep, the military never has anything ever malfunction. What a freaking joke.
 

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I love how people who make/design/promote/etc. the latest greatest remote killing machine for the military always act like it can't malfunction. Yep, the military never has anything ever malfunction. What a freaking joke.


The real clue is that while the company rep insisted no one was ever in danger after the fact, both he and the guy operating the control box were shimmying up the side berm like crabs on meth when their pet machine-gun-on-wheels started to act out. 8)



I came very close to just pulling out a gun and shooting it, but figured (a) I'd get in a hell of a lot of trouble for destroying a prototype military robot and (b) with my luck I'd shoot the safety mechanism and it would open fire spontaneously.



Of course, that couldn't happen, because the controller wasn't pressing the red button.
 

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Speaking of robotics The C.R.O.W.S. system was being implemented while I was in Iraq those systems have saved some of my friends lives not to mention countless others. I played with it a little yet another million dollar toy thanks to uncle sam..



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CROWS



Our guys had the M2 .50 cal machinegun on them and talk about robocop
 

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ToddG said:
To which I replied, "I bet there's no way it can turn 270-degrees unless the controller pushes on the joystick, too, right?"


Come on brother thats just a little......eye candy to get a rise outta the crowd
 

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Our guys had the M2 .50 cal machinegun on them and talk about robocop


W...T...F...



50 cal fully auto robot... that isn't a robocop, it is a mobile genocide machone.
 

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Grimwulff said:
[quote name='101Combat Vet']Our guys had the M2 .50 cal machinegun on them and talk about robocop


W...T...F...



50 cal fully auto robot... that isn't a robocop, it is a mobile genocide machone.[/quote]



its still pretty fun though
8)
 
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