I have a Pachmayer grip on my M&P. I like rubber grips because it seems to give a more positive grip. The Pachmayer does not have the palm swells to it. I use it over the medium grip. It was a bugger to get on! It would not slip onto the grip so I used a sandwich bag and cut the bottom out like a tube and slipped it over the grip then slid the Pachmayer over it and pulled the plastic out that was between the grips.dlgoldston said:I had a houge grip on my M&P 40 and took it off, I did not really like it becase the grip swells that came with the gun were so comfortable to me. I have always used the houge grips on my best pistols though and I liked them alot.