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I recently picked up a Mossberg 500 for a nice price. It's coming with an ATI side folding stock. I have not fired it yet so will with hold my opinion until I do. However, I have not heard anything good about these stocks and being new to shotguns I was thinking of changing the stock. I have been looking at Knoxx stocks and Speedfeed stocks, but am not sure I want to drop $100 on a stock so soon. I have also thought about just swapping for the original stock or a Hogue model. Thoughts and Opinions.
 

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Opinions are certainly what you will get- not so much facts. Comb length and cheek welds make stock selection a very personal preference. You will really need to find what you like best. I would say at least try the shotgun out before you go and buy another stock. If nothing else, your knowledge base will increase with what works for you or doesn't. Having said that, I was swayed to not purchase a Knoxx stock after some critiques on the 10-8 forum. Perform a search there and you should find lots of info regarding them. Remember, the Knoxx stock is designed to manage recoil internally. As such, it behaves much like a strut/shock absorber under recoil. Some people find it annoying as the stock compresses. I have a Speedfeed on my 11-87 that I love. It is the pistol grip CQB version (1 inch shorter for body armor/chest carriers). I would say hit every pawn shop/sporting goods store you can and try to find the setup that works best for you before you spend your hard earned cash.
 

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My opinion on shotgun stocks. Get something you don't mind cutting into if you are not tall. Cut it to the right length, and put a good recoil pad on it. That's about it.



If you are tall, just get a normal stock, and add a decent slip on recoil pad to get extra length and mitigate recoil. Then tape the slip on pad down.
 

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I got an ATI M4 style stock for my Mossberg 500 while shooting 2 3/4" 00 Buck with a then pistol grip only "Cruiser". after about 15 00B and 50 AA light target loads, my wrist started to hurt after each shot. The ATI stock came with a rubber buttpad that made shooting what I had left more pleasent.

The side folder they had looked rather weak, and prone to unlocking during shooting or a hard bump.





B.T.W., I chickened out of shooting the Winchester Super X 3" Magnum 12 gauge 00 Buckshot I had with me shortly before I decided to buy a shoulder stock from the range store.


 

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My first gun was a Mossberg 590. I promptly got some buck shot and went out to have some fun. I shot 2 rounds of 0 buck and said, "aw, F**K!" to which my brother said, "*****! Give me that."



He shot 1 round and said, "aw, F**K!" to which our friend said, "Pussies! Give me that."



He shot 1 round and said, "aw, F**K!" to which we both said, "*****!"



I thought, what did I buy? But I wanted a collapsable stock anyway, and the Knoxx said it reduced recoil to nothing, so I figured what the hell, it's still cheaper than an autoloader.



I ordered a Knoxx SpecOps stock and had to wait a couple of months, because production was just beginning. When I got it, I wasn't too impressed. It doesn't look all that good. It doesn't seem to fit the Mossberg all that well. And the grip kind of sucks. But I figured I bought the thing so I might as well shoot it.



So off I went to the range with 4 boxes of buck, and 1 box of magnum slugs. And WOW! The Knoxx suddenly looked very pretty to me. Adjustable length of pull, and while there is still recoil, it is completely manageable. I routinely shoot 50 various rounds with little to no pain.



And with a Hogue sleeve, some GG&G mounts, and a Wilderness giles sling, you have the perfect home defense gun.



I love my Knoxx stock. My brother loves his, and our friend loves his.
 

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Hmmmmmmmmmmm, I think we maybe overexagerating here because I have an ATI buttstock without the recoil spring like the knoxx has and I shoot a box (25) 2 3/4 of buckshot every weekend, with no issues. I will give you this, it was a good read. :wink: BTW, I also have a Mossberg 590, so I know Bob... You are being silly...
But I will agree, the Knoxx stock will stop most of the recoil and it also looks bad to the bone... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:



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I installed an ATI "side folder" on my Mossberg 500.



VERY solid piece. Very good fit. I installed it because my wife has a little problem with the plain pistol grip.



I ordered a slip on rubber butt pad for it. It's long enough that I'll likely need to cut (shorten) the stock about an inch.



I doubt very seriously that the lock would ever disengage accidentally. It's very firm and thumb pressure alone will just barely release it. I use the heel of my hand below the base of the thumb.



I prefer the side folder because:



** I prefer the pistol grip myself. The folder is for "The Ayatollah", It's not in my way when folded.



** It leaves the top of the receiver available for a picatinny rail (on order) and lights or sights mounted there-on.



** It "packages" smaller than one with a collapsable stock.



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I think I will end up with the Hogue overmold 12" LOP stock. I held a Remington with the regular overmold stock and really liked the grip. It's a little cheaper than the Knoxx stocks and allows easy access to the safety. I shot my Mossberg with the ATI sidefolder and had trouble keeping it centered. I don't have a buttpad for it so that might have been an issue.



Has anyone added a sling to the ATI stocks (side folder or collapsible)? How did you mount it?
 

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If you get an AR style stock, you can use the rear sling thing from http://gggaz.com/index.php?id=69&parents=38,48.



GG&G also makes a front sling mount for the Mossberg.



The giles sling from TheWilderness http://thewilderness.com/catalog/index.php...9594a0d1a58f0c6 is about the best sling I've found, and their belts are amazing.



Don't skimp on your home defense slings. Spend the money. I'm poor, but I won't skimp on a CC holster for pistol, or a sling for any long gun used for self defense. A quality holster or sling could mean the difference between keeping your gun in an attack, or having your gun used against you.
 

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