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I was examining my full size MP9 today and noticed there is a huge gap between the slide and the frame from about midway above the trigger guard to nearly the rear of the gun. This is more obvious with the mag removed. Holding it up to my PC screen, I could easily read through it.



Is this normal? Everyone else has this gap too, right?
 

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Incase one forgets these are not finely fitted 1911s, they are fighting guns.
 

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Not at all, so let's not start something that will have no end. I happen to think for the person who is going to train with their weapon a 1911 is a GREAT fighting gun, one of the best. But we must remember the 1911 was built in a day that labor was cheap and they need to be fitted to work right all the time. Todays fighting guns are mass produced and as such there are going to be gaps that some will fine unsightly but they in no way hinder the performance of the weapon.
 

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zenner22 said:
Ok you didn't really say a 1911 isn't a fighting gun did you?
you think like my wife. She comes up with 5 when she adds 2+2
 

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I am a 1911 guy more than a polymer guy. You do not have to spend $2000 + to get a hand fitted 1911 that works. I use out of the box Colt Governments, Commanders, a Springfield Mil-Spec. Yep, just the basic models work great. They don't need to be tuned to function perfectly, although that has been the trend and the myth for quite some time now.



Did not like Glocks, they turned me off of the plastic, I just thought they weren't for me. Years later I held a Walther P99 and discovered polymer can have fantastic ergonomics when time is spent in designing that area. The Walther is a great gun that I grew attached to. And that is the reason why I gave the MP9 a chance. Unfortunately I have not been able to shoot it yet, probably won't for another couple weeks. But I am looking forward to it.
 

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More importantly how does it shoot?



I hear the same complaints about Glocks, and then see people who can't shoot the Glock to its potential.



I would be concerned about it only if it was harming my ability to shoot.
 

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the gap still gets on my nerves. glocks do not have such a huge gap. have u seen the MP45? the gap at the front is hillarious! I think some1 screwed up the mold.
 

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Gap is there so that in case you drop your weapon in mud, it wont jam. M&P, afterall, is primary designed as military/police sidearm



Have you take apart Origianl USSR AK lately? With their sloppy tolorance, and yet have you heard how dependable they are?
 

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'mind the gap' ...just had to say that.



 

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I noticed these in gun stores and the guy had nothing to say about it. In a different forum some months back, there is an officer who has S&W reps come by and I guess he noted it to them as well. I had asked and he immediately replied that it had to do with making cooling easier. Sounds weird, at least to me. Never seen a gap like this in any other gun.



I called S&W a few weeks after that discussion and was told the same thing. Supposedly, S&W did a lot of homework on this pistol and to me it seems to show. I still kind of question the gap, but I guess I don't really care about it anymore.
 
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