I know this was a long dead thread, but I was at Dick's the other day to get some range ammo, and ran across the Ultimax brand (250 .40 for $54.99). i was almost tempted to get the thing, but i remember reading bad stuff about them. Did a search and it seems its a mixed bag of good and bad, but that was almost a year ago. Has this brand gotten better with regards to its QC. With ammo prices on the rise, its a very tempting to get a box and see how it shoots (or doesn't shoot).