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How many M&P Owners out there have the "Warning capable of firing without magazine" stamped on the slide? The M&P40 I have doesn't have this, or the "Read Owner's Manual before use" stamp that my Beretta Cougar had all over the slide. I also remember when 15 rd. magazines had the "For Law Enforcement Use Only" stamped on it. I guess it's just my opinion, but does everything we buy have to have a disclaimer on it these days? The lack of a warning printed on the slide was about reason #15 I bought the M&P.
 

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There are a few different models of the M&P. One version will NOT fire if the magazine is not loaded into the weapon. This is a safety feature, much like the version of the weapon that comes with a key to lock and unlock the weapon.



Other versions WILL fire if there is a round chambered, even if the mag is not in the weapon. Your gun shop should have informed you of this.



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They did, I was just ranting on how almost everything we buy has to have some disclaimer on it. I guess Gun Manufacturers being sued over what criminals do with their products gets under my skin.
 

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Just ask McDonald's about their coffee....
 

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featherbndr said:
How many M&P Owners out there have the "Warning capable of firing without magazine" stamped on the slide? The M&P40 I have doesn't have this, or the "Read Owner's Manual before use" stamp that my Beretta Cougar had all over the slide. I also remember when 15 rd. magazines had the "For Law Enforcement Use Only" stamped on it. I guess it's just my opinion, but does everything we buy have to have a disclaimer on it these days? The lack of a warning printed on the slide was about reason #15 I bought the M&P.


Because lawyers rule the world.
 

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[quote name='featherbndr']How many M&P Owners out there have the "Warning capable of firing without magazine" stamped on the slide? The M&P40 I have doesn't have this, or the "Read Owner's Manual before use" stamp that my Beretta Cougar had all over the slide. I also remember when 15 rd. magazines had the "For Law Enforcement Use Only" stamped on it. I guess it's just my opinion, but does everything we buy have to have a disclaimer on it these days? The lack of a warning printed on the slide was about reason #15 I bought the M&P.


Because lawyers rule the world.[/quote]

insurance companys and lawyers rule the world
 

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I don't mind it so much, although I would prefer it not be there. I tried to order my M&P with a mag safety so I didn't have the warning, but my dealer only carries the non safety models.
 

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Just ask McDonald's about their coffee....




Mcdonalds is the devil Just watch "Supersize Me" that documentary will get you to quit eating fast food alltogether
 

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[quote name='Morgan Walker']Just ask McDonald's about their coffee....




Mcdonalds is the devil Just watch "Supersize Me" that documentary will get you to quit eating fast food alltogether[/quote]



He has a couple out, but he did the documentary on how he lost that weight too which was amazing. Just as long as it is not that Liberal P.O.S. Michael Moore doing anything I am fine...
 

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tigs40cal said:
[quote name='45guy']A Media Blast takes care of all the little warning labels.
Bingo , problem solved :wink:[/quote]



Yeah, but it will also blast off the Melonite finish and give the pistol a completely different look (that being 2 tone). And even though the slide IS stainless, it still can rust. Having the Melonite removed increases the chance of rust. Thats why (for now) I have decided to just live with the ugly little gold colored disclaimer on the right side of my slide.



Eventually I am going to get the slide refinished by CCR Refinishing. They offer an excellent black finish called the CCR Select Series. I had them do a Berreta 92F awhile back. Their service was polite, quick and turn around time was less than 2 weeks.



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guinea said:
[quote name='tigs40cal'][quote name='45guy']A Media Blast takes care of all the little warning labels.
Bingo , problem solved :wink:[/quote]



Yeah, but it will also blast off the Melonite finish and give the pistol a completely different look (that being 2 tone). And even though the slide IS stainless, it still can rust. Having the Melonite removed increases the chance of rust. Thats why (for now) I have decided to just live with the ugly little gold colored disclaimer on the right side of my slide.



Eventually I am going to get the slide refinished by CCR Refinishing. They offer an excellent black finish called the CCR Select Series. I had them do a Berreta 92F awhile back. Their service was polite, quick and turn around time was less than 2 weeks.



The Guinea[/quote]



It doesn't take the melonite off, Please do your research before stating things you don't know about.



Its a 2 part process, one is the metal treatment, and the second is the coating.
 

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Its barely noticeable. The only thing I notice is that extra $30.00 in my wallet, that I saved by getting a no mag safety model.
 

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Jester said:
[quote name='guinea'][quote name='tigs40cal'][quote name='45guy']A Media Blast takes care of all the little warning labels.
Bingo , problem solved :wink:[/quote]



Yeah, but it will also blast off the Melonite finish and give the pistol a completely different look (that being 2 tone). And even though the slide IS stainless, it still can rust. Having the Melonite removed increases the chance of rust. Thats why (for now) I have decided to just live with the ugly little gold colored disclaimer on the right side of my slide.



Eventually I am going to get the slide refinished by CCR Refinishing. They offer an excellent black finish called the CCR Select Series. I had them do a Berreta 92F awhile back. Their service was polite, quick and turn around time was less than 2 weeks.



The Guinea[/quote]



It doesn't take the melonite off, Please do your research before stating things you don't know about.



Its a 2 part process, one is the metal treatment, and the second is the coating.[/quote]



Ok, so you're saying that having the black finish removed does NOT increase the chance of rust at all? Thats the point I was trying to make. And if removing the black finish does indeed increase the chance of rust, then I do know what I am talking about.



Besides, a CS rep at S&W (and this is awhile back) informed me that the black finish is Melonite. So one should assume that removing the black (the Melonite) finish is leaving the stainless steel raw, correct? So my "research" as you call it was info I obtained from the gun manufacture. Should I not trust in them now?



Maybe you should put a call into S&W's customer service and them them that "they do not know what they are talking about" as well. Thanks.



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guinea said:
[quote name='Jester'][quote name='guinea'][quote name='tigs40cal'][quote name='45guy']A Media Blast takes care of all the little warning labels.
Bingo , problem solved :wink:[/quote]



Yeah, but it will also blast off the Melonite finish and give the pistol a completely different look (that being 2 tone). And even though the slide IS stainless, it still can rust. Having the Melonite removed increases the chance of rust. Thats why (for now) I have decided to just live with the ugly little gold colored disclaimer on the right side of my slide.



Eventually I am going to get the slide refinished by CCR Refinishing. They offer an excellent black finish called the CCR Select Series. I had them do a Berreta 92F awhile back. Their service was polite, quick and turn around time was less than 2 weeks.



The Guinea[/quote]





It doesn't take the melonite off, Please do your research before stating things you don't know about.



Its a 2 part process, one is the metal treatment, and the second is the coating.[/quote]



Ok, so you're saying that having the black finish removed does NOT increase the chance of rust at all? Thats the point I was trying to make. And if removing the black finish does indeed increase the chance of rust, then I do know what I am talking about.



Besides, a CS rep at S&W (and this is awhile back) informed me that the black finish is Melonite. So one should assume that removing the black (the Melonite) finish is leaving the stainless steel raw, correct? So my "research" as you call it was info I obtained from the gun manufacture. Should I not trust in them now?



Maybe you should put a call into S&W's customer service and them them that "they do not know what they are talking about" as well. Thanks.



The Guinea[/quote]



Does anyone know what type/grade of stainless steel the slide is? I was also considering getting the media blast by sending it up to Burrnells. If the SS is a 400 series AND the melonite IS removed I may reconsider.

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guinea said:
[quote name='Jester'][quote name='guinea'][quote name='tigs40cal'][quote name='45guy']A Media Blast takes care of all the little warning labels.
Bingo , problem solved :wink:[/quote]



Yeah, but it will also blast off the Melonite finish and give the pistol a completely different look (that being 2 tone). And even though the slide IS stainless, it still can rust. Having the Melonite removed increases the chance of rust. Thats why (for now) I have decided to just live with the ugly little gold colored disclaimer on the right side of my slide.



Eventually I am going to get the slide refinished by CCR Refinishing. They offer an excellent black finish called the CCR Select Series. I had them do a Berreta 92F awhile back. Their service was polite, quick and turn around time was less than 2 weeks.



The Guinea[/quote]



It doesn't take the melonite off, Please do your research before stating things you don't know about.



Its a 2 part process, one is the metal treatment, and the second is the coating.[/quote]



Ok, so you're saying that having the black finish removed does NOT increase the chance of rust at all? Thats the point I was trying to make. And if removing the black finish does indeed increase the chance of rust, then I do know what I am talking about.



Besides, a CS rep at S&W (and this is awhile back) informed me that the black finish is Melonite. So one should assume that removing the black (the Melonite) finish is leaving the stainless steel raw, correct? So my "research" as you call it was info I obtained from the gun manufacture. Should I not trust in them now?



Maybe you should put a call into S&W's customer service and them them that "they do not know what they are talking about" as well. Thanks.



The Guinea[/quote]



I would like to think that both of you guys are correct. I could not find an answer whether the black is actually melonite, or more of a finish, but from my understanding, when you remove the black finish, along with it goes some Melonite.




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guinea said:
[quote name='Jester'][quote name='guinea'][quote name='tigs40cal'][quote name='45guy']A Media Blast takes care of all the little warning labels.
Bingo , problem solved :wink:[/quote]



Yeah, but it will also blast off the Melonite finish and give the pistol a completely different look (that being 2 tone). And even though the slide IS stainless, it still can rust. Having the Melonite removed increases the chance of rust. Thats why (for now) I have decided to just live with the ugly little gold colored disclaimer on the right side of my slide.



Eventually I am going to get the slide refinished by CCR Refinishing. They offer an excellent black finish called the CCR Select Series. I had them do a Berreta 92F awhile back. Their service was polite, quick and turn around time was less than 2 weeks.



The Guinea[/quote]



It doesn't take the melonite off, Please do your research before stating things you don't know about.



Its a 2 part process, one is the metal treatment, and the second is the coating.[/quote]



Ok, so you're saying that having the black finish removed does NOT increase the chance of rust at all? Thats the point I was trying to make. And if removing the black finish does indeed increase the chance of rust, then I do know what I am talking about.



Besides, a CS rep at S&W (and this is awhile back) informed me that the black finish is Melonite. So one should assume that removing the black (the Melonite) finish is leaving the stainless steel raw, correct? So my "research" as you call it was info I obtained from the gun manufacture. Should I not trust in them now?



Maybe you should put a call into S&W's customer service and them them that "they do not know what they are talking about" as well. Thanks.



The Guinea[/quote]









The black coloring is NOT the melonite. The black is only a coloring, which can be removed, leaving the melonite treatment intact. I'm not an expert on the "media treatment", but I believe it involves blasting the metal, removing the black and the melonite, then the metal is coated in nickle. I believe the nickle coating also serves as a protectant to the steel.
 

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Melonite is the US, EPA friendly, version of Glock's Tenifer which is a clear treatment that impregnates the metal. Then a black finish is applied over top of it. You can remove the black finish. You can not remove the Melonite.
 
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