I wonder if they`ll have 10rd mags available for some of us that live in the NAZI demOrat prisoner camps (NY)And the answer is:
3.6” barreled compact
If they don't you can always easily convert a M&P45 into a 45 Super. Is it 10mm?They are going to produce a pair of 10mm M&P 2.0s any moment now--a full size and a 45c equivalent--I just know it. The best handling, most-comfortable and controllable, best-looking polymer auto pistols available, with the aesthetics and ergonomics we've come to expect.
That's what's next.
Oh, and there will be no goofy 'finger hook' on the trigger guard, and they'll offer at least one full size model with no tac rail...just extra beef.
Interesting. So, only a 24lb spring and guide rod, no other modifications? The 45 super rounds aren’t too much pressure? Noob to this, just curious.If they don't you can always easily convert a M&P45 into a 45 Super. Is it 10mm?
No, but its pretty close. Plus if you can find a police trade for cheap all you have to do is basically buy a Wolff guide rod and 24lb recoil spring.
While I doubt you find a police trade in a 2.0 the 1.0s are out there.
If you have to have a 2.0 which is the name of this thread then you pick one up for $400. https://gunprodeals.com/product/smith-wesson-11523-mp-m2.0-double-45-automatic-colt-pistol-acp-4.5-101-black-interchangeable-backstrap-grip-black-stainless-steel
I would imagine the 2.0 would be more suitable for the conversion because of the steel insert in the frame and the more aggressive grips.
The 45 Super Page - Use this as a reference.
Right now you can have a 2.0 that is very close to 10mm plus "full power" 10mm loads aren't cheap.
Regular 10mm is basically just hot .40 so you are going to spend some money on ammo either way.
Swap back to the factory guide rod and you can shoot .45 ACP all day.
Just throwing that out there if you need something right now with some serious OOMPH in a M&P.
They would have to make a 10mm barrel and magazines to fit 10mm cartridges. Other then that I don't think they would have to make a completely different frame but they might have to to fit the magazines. The .45 frame especially in 2.0 should easily be able to handle the 10mm. If you go across the net there are quite a few people who want to see a M&P in 10mm. Will it happen? If S&W sees it as a profitable venture yes, if not then it won't happen. The major problem is pretty much every PD is going down to 9mm and actually dropping the .40 and .45 because their LEOs cant handle the recoil. Is S&W willing to chance that they will make a profit worth the effort?I actually don't care that much about the 'oomph'...and I don't care if the loads are max loads or beyond. I haven't shot factory ammo in well over a decade, except for 22 LR and 12 Ga--so that's not a factor for me either. I would just enjoy my favorite polymer in my favorite caliber/capacity combo. For whatever reason, however mysterious, there is no handgun I own that I'm able to shoot as fast and accurately as my MP45c, and I'd like to enjoy a similar experience with an MP10c. No guarantee that would happen even if the gun were produced...but I'm willing to try!
I did it with a 1911 and it's a beast. It was a $20 conversion. I had a full length guide rod laying around and the recoil spring and the flat-bottom firing pin stop were about $20. While the pressures are higher, the 45 super cartridge has thicker brass so no problems with the barrel. It's super fun and if I want to change back to .45+P I really don't have to do a thing, it cycles. If I use regular range ammo, not going to happen, I have to go to a lighter recoil spring.Interesting. So, only a 24lb spring and guide rod, no other modifications? The 45 super rounds aren’t too much pressure? Noob to this, just curious.
Actually the 2.0 CORE is in production but limited to LEO sales for the time being. It should hit the consumer market fairly soon. No one, including the S&W's Customer Service Rep I spoke with, knows why it took so long.I'd guess 2.0 versions of their Pro and Pro CORE line would be next.
How many departments allow RDS on duty guns?Actually the 2.0 CORE is in production but limited to LEO sales for the time being. It should hit the consumer market fairly soon. No one, including the S&W's Customer Service Rep I spoke with, knows why it took so long.
No argument they are going to be common eventually. I know multiple cops in my area that have personal guns with RDS but their duty guns are not allowed.Apparently enough that S&W is willing to limit 2.0 CORE sales to them for the present. I expect red dots on LEO guns to be quite common in the future as the advantages are too many to ignore.
Thanks for the heads up Smith. I get the feeling that this maybe an elephant pregnancy. I sure hope not.Actually the 2.0 CORE is in production but limited to LEO sales for the time being. It should hit the consumer market fairly soon. No one, including the S&W's Customer Service Rep I spoke with, knows why it took so long.